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<h1>Social Web Incubator Group Teleconference</h1>
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<h2>23 Sep 2009</h2>
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<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-irc">IRC
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log</a></p>
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<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<div class="intro">
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<dl>
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<dt>Present</dt>
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<dd>pchampin, +1.314.683.aabb, mauro, Phil_Archer, bblfish,
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cperey, DKA, mauro.a, mischat_(muted), karl, AlexPassant</dd>
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<dt>Regrets</dt>
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<dt>Chair</dt>
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<dd>hhalpin</dd>
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<dt>Scribe</dt>
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<dd>Karl Dubost</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
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<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
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<ol>
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<li><a href="#item01">"Convene SWXG WG meeting of
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2009-09-16T13:00-15:00Z"</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item02">Intro</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item03">"General Organization and Task
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Forces"</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item04">Telcon time</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item05">"Invited Guest Invitations"</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item06">"User Stories"</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item07">"Invited Guest - Ros Lawler of Random
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House"</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<div class="meeting">
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> what is the
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conference name "swxg" ?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> zakim isn't picking
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up the phone numbers</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> dialing in</p>
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<p class='phone'>trackbot, start telcon</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 23 September
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2009</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>rreck</cite>> i dont see conference
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entry messages</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> hi</p>
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<h3 id="item01">"Convene SWXG WG meeting of
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2009-09-16T13:00-15:00Z"</h3>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>AlexPassant</cite>> have you just
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joined as well hhalpin ?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> scribe: Karl
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Dubost</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> PROPOSED: to
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approve SWXG WG Weekly -- 16th September 2009 (only text IRC
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notes!) as a true record.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>rreck</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> APPROVED: SWXG WG
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Weekly -- 16th September 2009 as a true record.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> hehe</p><a name=
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"action01" id="action01"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> hhalpin needs
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to convert previous minutes into HTML via some scripting
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
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<h3 id="item02">Intro</h3>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Meet again next
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Sept 30th.</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> we should get
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Saint-Andre for XMPP</p>
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<h3 id="item03">"General Organization and Task Forces"</h3>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Include the open
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day work..</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> We are on a track …<br />
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... 200 people for the venue<br />
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... It will be like a barcamp event<br />
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... we will have opportunity to learn about social
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networking<br />
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... and @@blabla<br />
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... christine proposed an agenda</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Planning_for_TPAC_Open_Day">
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http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Planning_for_TPAC_Open_Day</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> we need to add some
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sessions<br />
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... w3c wishes we are using channels of w3c for
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communicating?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> so the name of the
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wiki page needs to be modified!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> henry?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> there will be cakes</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>DKA</cite>> You had me at
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"cakes."</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> there will be a
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cantine<br />
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... (kind of restaurant)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> so we need a
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registration system. Who has one of those?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> for registration
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I'd use eventbrite.com</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> We need to have a place
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where people can sign-up</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> seems to work
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well.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> exactly, we need a
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web page</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> barcamp alike</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> what about speaker
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invites?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> can we brainstorm
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some speaker names?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> on wiki or on the
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call?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> not choppy here</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> agreed</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> can you please
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propose a day/time?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Planning_for_TPAC_Open_Day">
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http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Planning_for_TPAC_Open_Day</a>
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<--at the bottom of the page is a place for invites</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> "before the
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call"</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> We could meet before the
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call next week</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> If people could attend
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identity workshop</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> <a href=
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"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-socialweb/2009Sep/0050.html">
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-socialweb/2009Sep/0050.html</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>DKA</cite>> Suggest a tag line for
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the event "Advancing the Cause of the Social Web."</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.internetidentityworkshop.com/">http://www.internetidentityworkshop.com/</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> I should be
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there</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> Most of the good
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speakers will be at the identity workshop.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> <a href=
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"http://iiw9.eventbrite.com/">http://iiw9.eventbrite.com/</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> barcamp uses it
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too</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA2</cite>> I've used Eventbrite
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- seems good</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> I will be there<br />
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... should we start something for the open social web day<br />
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... It would be good if people could attend.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Thursday on
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TPAC</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> We will have two days at
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the TPAC but it's kind possible to attend both</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Open Developer
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Day</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> On TPAC, there will be
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also the Open Developer Day.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> We are also looking
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for one or two speakers to talk about Social Web to the people
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at the developer day.</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> We are also looking for
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one or two speakers to speak about Social web things at the
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Open Developer Day.<br />
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... Please register asap</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> <a href=
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"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-socialweb/2009Sep/0051.html">
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-socialweb/2009Sep/0051.html</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> there is a suggestion to
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change the telcon time</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> 6:00 AM in
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California</p>
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<h3 id="item04">Telcon time</h3>
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<p class='phone'><cite>UNKNOWN_SPEAKER:</cite> it is a bit
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early on the west coast</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> If we kept the same
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day but moved the call back 2 hours.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>MacTed</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>UNKNOWN_SPEAKER:</cite> How many people
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would be ok if we keep the same day</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>AlexPassant</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>oshani</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> 2 hours would be
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fine for me.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>melvster</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> two hours</p>
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<p class='phone'>but two hours.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>DKA</cite>> +1 I would be fine.</p>
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<p class='phone'>-1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'>-1 (work reasons)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Adam</cite>> what about just an
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hour later?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> bear in mind that
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daylight savings is coming up soon.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> yes, that messes
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things up</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>karl:</cite> I will not be able to move
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my time because of my work in a Web agency</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Make it 2 hours
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LATER</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>karl:</cite> that's fine though. change
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the time</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> So 15:00UTC</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Karl - can you do 2
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hours later?</p>
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<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: Telconf
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is moved at 15:00 UTC</strong></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>danbri</cite>> (was there a
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resolution already?)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Let's not change it
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quite yet</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Let me run this by
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some of the people in San Fran</p>
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<p class='phone'>:) resolution might be changed ;)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> They actually
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trying to participate.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> it would be slightly
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easier to change it after we are all aligned</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> after change of
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daylight savings</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>melvster</cite>> california has
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daylight saving too, normally its 1-2 weeks within the european
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change</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Dan:</cite> it's not sure we will get
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more participants by moving the time</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA2</cite>> I have tried
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changing times of calls to suit different people before now -
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and in that case the people we changed to accommodate - didn't
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ever show up :-(</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> I agree, 8 is limit
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9am would be something</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> somepeople asked<br />
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... so we could try</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin to get back to people on
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possible telecon time to change to 15:00 UTC. [recorded in
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-89
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- Get back to people on possible telecon time to change to
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15:00 UTC. [on Harry Halpin - due 2009-09-30].</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> just asking for now</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> +q</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> how does daylight
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saving time change things</p><a name="action03" id=
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"action03"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> cperey to
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start a wiki page about the open day session at TPAC [recorded
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p><a name="action04"
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id="action04"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> DKA to
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double-check on TPAC, make sure SWXG is booked. [recorded in
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p><a name="action05"
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> DKA to
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summarize OSLO and geoLocation conversation in order to spread
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knowledge of these efforts among W3C members. [recorded in
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p><a name="action06"
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> Mischa to
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describe/implement a report of terms and conditions, and how
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they change between now and the end of the XG. [recorded in
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> hhalpin: am aware
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of my action, will get on it</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> We definitely
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should wait till we are on the spread.</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> we could wait until
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everyone is on the same timezone<br />
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... for avoiding the mess of time change</p><a name="action07"
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id="action07"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> Melvster to
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write up David Raggett's guest talk on context, delegated
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privacy providers, and so on. [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
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<p class='phone'><a href=
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"http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?low=8">http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?low=8</a></p>
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<h3 id="item05">"Invited Guest Invitations"</h3>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> e.g. Sydney is
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UTC+10, but in practice is either 9 hours or 11 hours ahead of
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London because of non-overlapping daylight savings.</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> what should we do for
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upcoming guest speakers?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>>
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www.globallockbox.com</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> they don't do privacy
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policy per se</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Nov or October?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>danbri</cite>> so long as they're
|
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talkign about general issues, trends etc., and their approach
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in broad brush, seems great</p><a name="action08" id=
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"action08"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> danbri to
|
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find someone from Opera to talk Widgets [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> Is what they do is
|
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relevant to social networks?</p><a name="action09" id=
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"action09"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> danbri and
|
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karl to contact Evan of identi.ca over OpenMicroblogging and
|
|
W3C. [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> they do a lot of
|
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things</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>danbri</cite>> rather than on
|
|
detail of the patented works, which i think we wouldn't want to
|
|
hear about</p><a name="action10" id="action10"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> Renato and
|
|
DanBri and hhalpin to schedule DataPortability.org/XMPP
|
|
[recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> they are in
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California,</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> i would like to try
|
|
and invite someone from the BBC to talk about how they used
|
|
twitter to report news on this last iranian elections, post
|
|
having all of their reporter being chucked out</p>
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|
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|
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> so they will be happy if
|
|
we change the time.</p><a name="action11" id="action11"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> cperey to book global lockbox as an
|
|
invited speaker [recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>
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|
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-90
|
|
- Book global lockbox as an invited speaker [on Christine Perey
|
|
- due 2009-09-30].</p>
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|
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> i will start
|
|
mailing people and i will mail the list</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> yes</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> yes</p>
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|
<p class='phone'><cite>mischat:</cite> On the guardian, they
|
|
had an interview<br />
|
|
... about how bbc tracked the iranian elections through
|
|
twitter</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>danbri</cite>> that would be great,
|
|
+1 from me</p>
|
|
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<p class='irc'><<cite>melvster</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> +1</p>
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|
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|
<p class='phone'><cite>mischat:</cite> would people be happy to
|
|
hear that.</p>
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|
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<p class='irc'><<cite>DKA</cite>> +1</p>
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|
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|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> sounds interstig,
|
|
particulary re provenance use case danbri brought up
|
|
earlier</p>
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|
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|
<p class='irc'><<cite>danbri</cite>> provenance and
|
|
retweet api discussions continue in the statusnet list</p>
|
|
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|
<h3 id="item06">"User Stories"</h3>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> anyone from
|
|
OpenSocial?</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> I've touched bases
|
|
with David Glazer</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>danbri</cite>> <a href=
|
|
"http://lists.status.net/pipermail/statusnet-dev/2009-September/002344.html">
|
|
http://lists.status.net/pipermail/statusnet-dev/2009-September/002344.html</a>
|
|
- statusnet / retweet thread</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> bblfish do you have any
|
|
updates?</p><a name="action12" id="action12"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> adam to
|
|
write up the boeing use case for enterprise social networks
|
|
[recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action12</a>]</p><a name="action13"
|
|
id="action13"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> rreck to
|
|
flesh out anonymous usecase connecting to multiple identies and
|
|
null provenance [recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action13</a>]</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> I will be meeting with
|
|
someone in Paris here</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> When you meet up
|
|
with Tim ping me</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> And I can walk you
|
|
and Tim through the W3C CVS editing process</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> and we can
|
|
hopefully get Oshani on the week.</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Oshani on the call
|
|
- and Karl also would know all of this!!</p><a name="action14"
|
|
id="action14"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> Oshani to
|
|
merge document takedown with time-related takedown "forget this
|
|
in ten years" and more general concept of data removal.
|
|
[recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action14</a>]</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> I would like to have a
|
|
document to be easier to read.</p><a name="action15" id=
|
|
"action15"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> oshani to
|
|
reframe the geolocation/intent/portability [recorded in
|
|
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action15">
|
|
http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action15</a>]</p><a name="action16"
|
|
id="action16"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> oshani to
|
|
flesh out "Intransitivity of Policies Applied to Social Network
|
|
Data" [recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action16</a>]</p><a name="action17"
|
|
id="action17"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> bblfish
|
|
to relabel data protection use case to be about controlled
|
|
access and takedown to data "about" you [recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action17">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action17</a>]</p><a name="action18"
|
|
id="action18"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> bblfish
|
|
to merge Family and Group access usecases [recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action18">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action18</a>]</p><a name="action19"
|
|
id="action19"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> caribou
|
|
to flesh out Data Protection use-case specifying user vs.
|
|
purpose, cite their work in PrimeLife [recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action19">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action19</a>]</p><a name="action20"
|
|
id="action20"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> hhalpin
|
|
explain to henry and oshani doc editing process for usecases
|
|
[recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action20">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action20</a>]</p>
|
|
|
|
<h3 id="item07">"Invited Guest - Ros Lawler of Random
|
|
House"</h3>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>oshani</cite>> 2 of my actions are
|
|
done: <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Document_Takedowns">
|
|
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Document_Takedowns</a>
|
|
and <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Intransitivity_of_Policies_Applied_to_Social_Network_Data">
|
|
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Intransitivity_of_Policies_Applied_to_Social_Network_Data</a></p><a name="action21"
|
|
id="action21"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> oshani to
|
|
flesh out "Intransitivity of Policies Applied to Social Network
|
|
Data" [recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action21">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action21</a>]</p><a name="action22"
|
|
id="action22"></a>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
|
|
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> Oshani to
|
|
merge document takedown with time-related takedown "forget this
|
|
in ten years" and more general concept of data removal.
|
|
[recorded in <a href=
|
|
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action22">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action22</a>]</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>bbb:</cite> a lot of the user stories we
|
|
have are centered on individuals</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> <a href=
|
|
"http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ros-lawler/7/327/b0b">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ros-lawler/7/327/b0b</a></p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>Ros:</cite> we have experimented into
|
|
social networks</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Guest speaker: Ros
|
|
Lawler, random House</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>Ros:</cite> identifying fan and
|
|
interests group</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> uses social networks
|
|
to find fan groups</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> create fan groups</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>Ros:</cite> creating fan groups<br />
|
|
... the work of analysis is a lot easier</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> <a href=
|
|
"http://www.davegorman.com/">http://www.davegorman.com/</a></p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Will try Karl</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> If there's no fan
|
|
gourp - how do we create one</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> terry Pratchet</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Need to understand
|
|
the community, like Terry Pratchett</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Approached Bebo to do
|
|
some promo work as taregting younger demographic</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Bebo more
|
|
creative</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Contatcted marketing
|
|
folk at Bebo - make it interesting nad we'll make it easy for
|
|
you</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> get folk on Bebo to
|
|
dress up as Dsicword characters</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Got list of over x
|
|
thousand friends - quick data captyre</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Facebook has lots of
|
|
activity. Some good some not</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Worked well - long
|
|
cookery list</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> "cooking the
|
|
books"</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Group called cooking
|
|
teh books - work within frameowrk of social network</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> We have author sites,
|
|
chick let sites etc</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> ROY - return on
|
|
invsetment</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'>social networks can be really time
|
|
consuming</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Can be time consuming
|
|
to run a new group - so need to make sure we're actually
|
|
getting sales</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'>direct sales are really poor in social
|
|
network</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Need to fine ways to
|
|
build data capture</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> E-mail gives us a
|
|
good ROI - use SNs to capture e-mail etc.</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Good publicity
|
|
success on the back of SNs</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Still working on how
|
|
much time do you put in</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'>karl wonders if there are metrics for
|
|
measuring</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> balance of
|
|
effort/return</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>ccc:</cite> one of the obsessive topic
|
|
is privacy</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>ros:</cite> it has to be opt-in.<br />
|
|
... in terms of our privacy we don't have any</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Some of us did this
|
|
from our personal profiles - now moved into professional
|
|
area</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Now done in name of
|
|
author, or publishing house or imprint</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>ccc:</cite> are there missing features
|
|
on twitter?</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> PhilA: is there
|
|
things you'd like to see on Twitter and SNs?</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>ros:</cite> it is very time consuming,
|
|
we could a one login for all of them.</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Ros: Don't think
|
|
there is a shortcut - wish there were one</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> "onr login to all
|
|
of them"</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='phone'><cite>ros:</cite> log in to all of them,
|
|
etc.</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Lots of people here
|
|
being shown how to use Tweetdeck etc. IT teems say no to
|
|
download and install anything</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> so you have to work
|
|
from home :-)</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Everyone appreciates
|
|
the argument but it gets in the way.</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> So there's a rpobelm
|
|
from a corporate point of view</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>Zakim</cite>> karl, you wanted to
|
|
ask if it is time consuming to contribute or to read</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>MacTed</cite>> (trouble with
|
|
Twitter echoes to Facebook, LJ, etc., is -- how can I read my
|
|
Tweetstream *and* those others without endless
|
|
duplication/multiplication? Usenet is hard to reinvent!)</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> DKA: Vodafone is very
|
|
large and conservative - the culture change needed for
|
|
corporate networks to be available is big. It's still
|
|
happening, we're not there yet. But it does need to happen</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> .. it happens from
|
|
the PR organisation, not the IT team</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> .. the PR team get it
|
|
- the IT Crew may need more persuasion</p>
|
|
|
|
<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> DKA: Maybe there's
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somthing to be said about Best pratice for large
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orgnaisations</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> IT policies can be a
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blocker to adoption</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Ros: We're also
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discussing cost. We take up a lot of bandwidth looking at
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facebook and so on - what is the legitimate use of the system.
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Video increasingly improtant</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Karl: Is it time
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consuming to read or to contribute?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Ros: Both take a lot
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of time to do properly. It's about establishing a relationship.
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Doing it meaningfully takes time</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>danbri</cite>> re "Best pratice for
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large orgnaisations", ... interesting suggestion</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> i recall Habitat™
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using Twitter to get advertising traffic, and was caught out
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for trying to hijack #iranelections to sell their products
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<a href=
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"http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8116869.stm.">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8116869.stm.</a>
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I wonder how bad that was for their reputation</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Karl: From my
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experience it's a lot easier to track things when you're
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organised. An aggregator can create dynamic lists, and
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filtering. Contributing can take longer</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Ros: We're creating
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content that we want to be able to distribute across multiple
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sites - hence we've created out own widget that gives you free
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access to some new books etc.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> .. gets more mass
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reach through social objects and automated distribution</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Adam: We (boeing) did
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a bench mark study about the culture - we had to not release
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tech because the culture wasn't ready. Is this going to save me
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time and money?</p>
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<p class='phone'>culture is more important than technology.
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Pushbacks are coming from the need to understand if it will be
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beneficial to the company</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Culture more
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improtant than tech</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Ros: When I joined 3
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years ago digital literacy was very low. Now we've built it up
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throughout the organisation</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> ack: bblfish</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> how many social networks
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you are following and contributing?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> bblfish: How many SNs
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do you contribute to/follow and how many can you not join
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because it's too much work</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Ros: we do have a lot
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of marketeers across the company - probably 10 or so across the
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group - and we go where the fans/readers are</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> .. yes, we're on
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TWitter and FB because that's where the numbers are but then
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we'll do more specialist things like, for example, LinkedIn for
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launching Richard Branson's book</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Ros: from a user
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point of view, there has tpo be a really big driver to sign up
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for another SN, setting up a new account</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> thinking of
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ning</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> agreed hhalpin</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> .. we'll see them set
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up, say FB nad then go to Twitter, but there needs to be a
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stroing interest to get them to move</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> harry: Ojne thing
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we're interested in is standardisation - making it easier for
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everyone</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>danbri</cite>> doh, skype-out
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account ran dry...</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> .. all the things
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I've been invited to are based on Ning and there are otehr
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specialist sites - do you think some sort of distributed SN
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standard would help or hurt businesses?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>danbri</cite>> re publisher
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industry use of social nets, relatedly i heard that many
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Myspace API efforts eg <a href=
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"http://search.cpan.org/dist/WWW-Myspace/lib/WWW/Myspace.pm">http://search.cpan.org/dist/WWW-Myspace/lib/WWW/Myspace.pm</a>
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are driven by needs of music publicists</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Ros: The publis that
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we're trying to reach are quite sophisticted. If it's not as
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good as facebook then it's not any good. It must do at least
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that much.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> What we want is a mix
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of personal pages and advertising - that's the ideal - for
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us</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> W3C Widgets comes
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to mind...</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> .. we have to make a
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differnet version of our widget for different SNs</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> And of course
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OpenSocial</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> ack: Mischa</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> mischa: I saw habitat
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jumping on the #iranelections tag on twitter to get people to
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go to their shops. Any otehr examples of other people doing it
|
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wrong?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Ros: They had a lot
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of bad PR. but the dust has settled. It did them damage but
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it's gone and long term it's not really an issue</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> .. Moonfruit were in
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the press a lot. twitter banned #moonfruit eventually</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>danbri</cite>> re w3c widgets
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-meet- social networks, see <a href=
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"http://incubator.apache.org/wookie/">http://incubator.apache.org/wookie/</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> They'r a white label
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website provider. Just include #moonfruit in your tweet and get
|
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a free xyz - and Twitter jumped in editorially for the first
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time. Big discussion./</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> +q</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> <a href=
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"http://mashable.com/2009/07/01/moonfruit-macbook/">http://mashable.com/2009/07/01/moonfruit-macbook/</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> agreed bblfish
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!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> bblfish: so that
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raises the question of ownership?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> .. there's an editor
|
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that can ban people from the network - in a distributed system
|
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everyone wons their own stuff. Would that be seen as
|
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valuable</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> (yes, this returns
|
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to the licensing issues)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>PhilA</cite>> Ros: yes. Look at the
|
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T&Cs - Ning owns copyright on anythign you post - so we
|
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can't post any of our book content because actually we own
|
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that, not them!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> good point</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> it would be
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interesting not just to look at privacy policies but content
|
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ownership</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> agreed hhalpin</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> thanks
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ross!</p><a name="action23" id="action23"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Archer to write summary of Ros's talk
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action25">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action25</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-91
|
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- Write summary of Ros's talk [on Phil Archer - due
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2009-09-30].</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>melvster</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/InvitedGuestSummaries">
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http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/InvitedGuestSummaries</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Adjourn
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Meeting.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> we should do a
|
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podcast of these meetings ;-)</p>
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</div>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Archer to write
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summary of Ros's talk [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action25">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action25</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> cperey to book
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global lockbox as an invited speaker [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin to get
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back to people on possible telecon time to change to 15:00 UTC.
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> PhilA to write
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summary of Ros's talk [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action23">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action23</a>]<br />
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<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> adam to write
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up the boeing use case for enterprise social networks [recorded
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in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> bblfish to
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merge Family and Group access usecases [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action18">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action18</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> bblfish to
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relabel data protection use case to be about controlled access
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and takedown to data "about" you [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action17">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action17</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> caribou to
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flesh out Data Protection use-case specifying user vs. purpose,
|
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cite their work in PrimeLife [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action19">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action19</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> danbri to
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find someone from Opera to talk Widgets [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> DKA to
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summarize OSLO and geoLocation conversation in order to spread
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knowledge of these efforts among W3C members. [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin
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explain to henry and oshani doc editing process for usecases
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action20">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action20</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Mischa to
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describe/implement a report of terms and conditions, and how they
|
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change between now and the end of the XG. [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> oshani to
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flesh out "Intransitivity of Policies Applied to Social Network
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Data" [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action16</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oshani to
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merge document takedown with time-related takedown "forget this
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in ten years" and more general concept of data removal. [recorded
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in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action14</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> oshani to
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reframe the geolocation/intent/portability [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action15">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action15</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> rreck to
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flesh out anonymous usecase connecting to multiple identies and
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null provenance [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action13</a>]<br />
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<br />
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<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> cperey to start
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a wiki page about the open day session at TPAC [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
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<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> danbri and karl
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to contact Evan of identi.ca over OpenMicroblogging and W3C.
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
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<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> DKA to
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double-check on TPAC, make sure SWXG is booked. [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
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<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin needs to
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convert previous minutes into HTML via some scripting [recorded
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in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Melvster to
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write up David Raggett's guest talk on context, delegated privacy
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providers, and so on. [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
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<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> oshani to flesh
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out "Intransitivity of Policies Applied to Social Network Data"
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action21">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action21</a>]<br />
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<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oshani to merge
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document takedown with time-related takedown "forget this in ten
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years" and more general concept of data removal. [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action22">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action22</a>]<br />
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<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Renato and
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DanBri and hhalpin to schedule DataPortability.org/XMPP [recorded
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in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
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