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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>RDB2RDF XG</h1>
<h2>09 Jan 2009</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0016.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Ashok_Malhotra, Andrew_Eisenberg, mhausenblas,
+49.322.222.0.aaaa, Soeren, +01212803aabb, iv_an_ru,
+49.341.973.aacc</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Ashok Malhotra</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>mhausenblas</dd>
</dl>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">Roll Call</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">Appointment of minute taker</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">Approve minutes of December 12
telcon</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">XG Logistics</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">Action Items</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">Satya Sahoo and Wolfgang Halb –
Update on Literature Survey</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">Use RIF for mapping</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">Discussion of XG
Recommendation</a></li>
<li><a href="#item09">AOB</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<p class='phone'>shall I scribe, Ashok ?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Ashok</cite>&gt; Please ...</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Ashok</cite>&gt; chair/; Ashok
Malhotra</p>
<p class='phone'>?me takes over :)</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Ashok</cite>&gt; meeting RDB2RDF XG
Jan 9, 2009</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Ashok</cite>&gt; scribe
mhausenblas</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Ashok</cite>&gt; scribenick:
mhausenblas</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>previous:</cite> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2008Dec/0019.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2008Dec/0019.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>ssahoo2</cite>&gt; now I am on
mute</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ssahoo2:</cite> are you P8?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Ashok</cite>&gt; testing</p>
<p class='phone'>again, who is P8?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>ssahoo2</cite>&gt; I am not P8</p>
<p class='phone'>right</p>
<h3 id="item01">Roll Call</h3>
<h3 id="item02">Appointment of minute taker</h3>
<p class='phone'>mhausenblas volunteers</p>
<h3 id="item03">Approve minutes of December 12 telcon</h3>
<p class='phone'>Ahmed requests clarification, see <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0001.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0001.html</a></p><a name="action01"
id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Ashok to fix minutes according to
Ahmed's mail [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item04">XG Logistics</h3>
<p class='phone'>Next telcon Jan 16, 2009</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>ssahoo2</cite>&gt; AShok I have
forwarded mail to Susie Stephens - she has not replied</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Ashok</cite>&gt; Satya, did you get a
date from Susie Stevens re. when she can present to us?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ashok:</cite> we should clean up,<br />
... get SOTA out and think about the charter</p>
<h3 id="item05">Action Items</h3><a name="action02" id=
"action02"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Satya to send mail to XG asking for a
final review of the Literature Survey <strong>[DONE]</strong>
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p><a name="action03"
id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Axel to propose changes to Proposed
Recommendation to use RIF (by X’mas)
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>iv_an_ru</cite>&gt; It seemes to me
that the phone connection is off</p><a name="action04" id=
"action04"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Ashok to send Proposed Recommendation
to XG <strong>[DONE]</strong> [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p><a name="action05"
id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Orri to send writeup on Ordnance
Survey Usecase to XG <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item06">Satya Sahoo and Wolfgang Halb – Update on
Literature Survey</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Ashok</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/StateOfTheArt?action=show">http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/StateOfTheArt?action=show</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ashok:</cite> sent out this morning by
Satya</p>
<p class='phone'>so, ssahoo2 is P8, right?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>ssahoo2</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/StateOfTheArt?action=AttachFile&amp;do=get&amp;target=RDB2RDF_SurveyReport.pdf">
http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/StateOfTheArt?action=AttachFile&amp;do=get&amp;target=RDB2RDF_SurveyReport.pdf</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>ssahoo2</cite>&gt; ssahoo2 is satya
sahoo</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Satya:</cite> please comment on the
current PDF version</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ashok:</cite> no requirement so far to
standardise the SPARQL bits so far</p><a name="action06" id=
"action06"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Satya to produce a final version of
the SOTA till 2009-01-16 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item07">Use RIF for mapping</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ashok:</cite> Axel is not around,
postpone it</p>
<h3 id="item08">Discussion of XG Recommendation</h3>
<p class='phone'>Michael notes that he is happy to take over TC
with support from OpenLink chaps</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ashok:</cite> I've added a UC</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Soeren:</cite> Got the impression that
the nicotine dependencies UC needs some wordsmithing</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ashok:</cite> one proposal from XXX with
reasoning</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Soeren</cite>&gt; Li Ma from IBM China
is Li Ma from IBM China</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Soeren:</cite> maybe we need an
enterprise UC (via Kingsley?)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ashok:</cite> I'm comfortable with an
corporate UC, Soeren may propose something there</p><a name=
"action07" id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Soeren to propose an enterprise UC
with input from OpenLink chaps [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Ashok</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0014.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0014.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Ashok</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0002.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0002.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>s/<a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0002.html/http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0002.html">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0002.html/http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0002.html</a>
comments re the deliverable document comments re the
deliverable document</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Orri:</cite> let's get it not too
complicated, will limit numbers of possible
implementation<br />
... we can not put the ETL stuff in detail in the charter
anyway<br />
... but should leave some space for it</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Zakim</cite>&gt; mhausenblas, you
wanted to ask re <a href=
"http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/ReusableIdentifier">http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/ReusableIdentifier</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I did not see a
reference from the deliverable, yet</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ashok:</cite> there is a reference but
not to this</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I volunteer to turn the
current draft into a proper XG report</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ashok:</cite> will send over the file,
good</p>
<h3 id="item09">AOB</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ashok:</cite> thanks everybody, till
next week</p>
<p class='phone'>[adjourned]</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Ashok to fix
minutes according to Ahmed's mail [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Satya to produce
a final version of the SOTA till 2009-01-16 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Soeren to propose
an enterprise UC with input from OpenLink chaps [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Axel to
propose changes to Proposed Recommendation to use RIF (by X’mas)
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Orri to send
writeup on Ordnance Survey Usecase to XG [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Ashok to send
Proposed Recommendation to XG [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Satya to send
mail to XG asking for a final review of the Literature Survey
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
[End of minutes]<br />
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