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<h1>W3C Media Fragments Working Group telephone conference 2008-09-17</h1>
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<h2>17 Sep 2008</h2>
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<p><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2008Sep/0000.html">Agenda</a></p>
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<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-irc">IRC
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log</a></p>
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<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dt>Present</dt>
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<dd>raphael, Michael_Hausenblas, +0329331aaaa, Yves, erik,
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+61.2.801.2.aabb, nessy</dd>
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<dt>Regrets</dt>
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<dd>Jack</dd>
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<dt>Chair</dt>
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<dd>Raphael</dd>
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<dt>Scribe</dt>
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<dd>Michael Hausenblas</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
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<li><a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
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<li><a href="#item01">Introduction</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item02">Future Meetings</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item03">Working Group Tools</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item04">Goals & Objectives</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item05">AOB</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<h3 id="item01">Introduction</h3>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Welcome. I and Erik will chair. Yves
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is the W3C team contact<br />
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... we will introduce to goals and tools today<br />
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... check out the WG page <a
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href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/</a><br
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... start introducing ourselves</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Silvia:</cite> Based in Australia<br />
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... developing hypervideo linking<br />
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... some 15 years of experiences in the multimedia realm</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> And Silvia is one of the IETF frag
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draft</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Erik:</cite> From Belgium, lab does lot of video
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stuff, MPEG, etc.<br />
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... metadata and feature extraction and adaptation<br />
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... were members of MMSEM-XG<br />
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... will co-chair with Raphael</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Davy:</cite> PhD at the multimedia lab (at Erik's
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lab)<br />
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... about adapting; first time in W3C</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>raphael</cite>> Michael: working in JRS,
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Austria</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>raphael</cite>> ... scalable multimedia app using
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SW technologies</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>raphael</cite>> ... past member of Multimedia
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Semantics XG, Linked Data group</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>raphael</cite>> ... did RDFa too</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Yves:</cite> the protocol guy<br />
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... working on HTTP 1.1 updates<br />
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... did annotating in RDF a long time ago ;)</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Post-doc at CWI<br />
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... co-chair of MMSEM-XG and SWBPD-WD TF<br />
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... contributed to IPTC, MPEG and related multimedia metadata stuff</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Erik:</cite> Missing important invited experts?</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> We will discuss this, yes</p>
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<p class="phone">-> <a
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href="http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/groups.html#good-standing">http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/groups.html#good-standing</a>
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Good Standing participation</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> please send regrets if you can't
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join<br />
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... we will be strict with that</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>Yves</cite>> <a
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href="http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/">http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/</a>
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is a good reading, especially for document transitions requirements</p>
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<p class="phone">-> <a
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href="http://www.w3.org/2008/01/media-fragments-wg.html">http://www.w3.org/2008/01/media-fragments-wg.html</a>
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Charter</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Silvia is one invited expert<br />
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... Wolfgang Jochum (Austria) can join</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Erik:</cite> Overlap with Media Annotation WG?<br />
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... should be join in both directions<br />
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... yes, increase industrial part</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Silvia:</cite> I know someone at Youtube<br />
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... I'll contact the person</p>
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<a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>scribe</cite>> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yves to
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contact Google AC Rep re member of MediaFrag WG till next week [recorded in
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<a
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href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-1 - Contact
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Google AC Rep re member of MediaFrag WG till next week [on Yves Lafon - due
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2008-09-24].</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Seven or more participants are
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expected</p>
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<h3 id="item02">Future Meetings</h3>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Weekly telecon<br />
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... 11:00UTC fine?</p>
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<p class="phone">propose 12:00UTC on Wednsday</p>
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<p class="phone">+1</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>davy</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>nessy</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>Yves</cite>> => 8AM boston time</p>
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<p class="phone">RESOLVED Weekly MediaFrag Telecon will be on Wednesday at
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12:00UTC</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> F2F<br />
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... first F2F during TPAC<br />
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... please register ASAP for TPAC<br />
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... who will attend</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>davy</cite>> I will</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>nessy</cite>> uncertain</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Michael:</cite> online IRC and phone</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> I'll be there</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>nessy</cite>> will know before 20th</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Erik:</cite> Second F2F<br />
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... can provide rooms at our place 8 Dec</p>
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<a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>scribe</cite>> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yves to
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set up a questionary for seond MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec)
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[recorded in <a
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href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-2 - Set up a
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questionary for second MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec) [on Yves Lafon -
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due 2008-09-24].</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> quck poll - any problems?</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class="phone">Michael ok</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>davy</cite>> ok</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> the third F2F likely in Korea</p>
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<p class="phone">Yves prefers Tuesday to Wednesday</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Erik:</cite> Currently rooms are reserved for
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Mo/Tue<br />
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... I'll take care of this</p>
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<h3 id="item03">Working Group Tools</h3>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> number of tools to support the
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telecons on IRC/phone<br />
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... have a look at the bot descriptions and instructions to support
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scribing<br />
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... srcibe will rotate, starting with more experienced ones<br />
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... further there is the issue and action tracker<br />
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... and the WG Wiki<br />
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... you need to create Wiki accounts yourself<br />
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... chairs will assign access right based on that<br />
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... I'll initially fill in some pieces in the Wiki</p>
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<h3 id="item04">Goals & Objectives</h3>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Overall goal is the specification and
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deployment of temporal and simple spatial media fragment URIs.<br />
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... we have committed to deliver some documents<br />
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... first will be a use case and req<br />
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... second one will be the actual spec (REC)<br />
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... tough scheduling<br />
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... we will go Rec-Track (from WD over Last Call to CR and PR to REC)<br />
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... have a look at the relevant background resources<br />
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... our immediate first goal is to get a first draft of the UC document</p>
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<a name="action03" id="action03"></a>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>scribe</cite>> <strong>ACTION:</strong> All to
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write up use cases by editing the Wiki and report it to the list [recorded in
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<a
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href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't find user -
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All</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Michael:</cite> How to deal with the requirements?</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Interdependent issues (UC and
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requirements)</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Silvia:</cite> Question re scheduling<br />
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... I thought Novemeber?</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Sure we try to stick with the
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schedule, so, yes the main reason is the F2F</p>
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<p class="irc"><<cite>erik</cite>> no q's at the moment</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> To sum up, edit Wiki (account, profile
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and UC)<br />
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... What we don't want to do is to specify a way to address spatio-temporal
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region in XML, etc (like in SMIL, MPEG-7, etc.) BUT in the URI<br />
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... but provide transformation rules to convert from to URI format</p>
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<h3 id="item05">AOB</h3>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Silvia:</cite> Re industry participation in this WG<br
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/>
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... have we talked to MS, Real Networks, Adobe, etc?</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Yves:</cite> We do have contacts (via Philippe -
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MS)<br />
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... we will work on this</p>
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<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Companies such as Apple and Adobe have
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shown interest, however<br />
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... TPAC will be a great chance to talk to people F2F<br />
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... thanks all, next week 12:00CET<br />
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... minutes will be sent out for review<br />
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... hear you next week</p>
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<p class="phone">[adjourned]</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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Items</a></h2>
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<!-- Action Items -->
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> All to write up use cases by
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editing the Wiki and report it to the list [recorded in <a
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href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br
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/>
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yves to contact Google AC Rep
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re member of MediaFrag WG till next week [recorded in <a
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href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yves to set up a questionary
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for seond MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec) [recorded in <a
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href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br
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