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<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
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<h2>26 Nov 2008</h2>
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<p>See also: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
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<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dt>Present</dt>
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<dd>erik, davy, +61.2.801.2.aaaa, Silvia, Yves, Thierry,
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jackjansen</dd>
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<dt>Regrets</dt>
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<dt>Chair</dt>
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<dd>Erik</dd>
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<dt>Scribe</dt>
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<dd>davy</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
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<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
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<li><a href="#item01">2nd F2F meeting</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item02">preparation of working draft</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item03">issues</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item04">aob</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 26 November
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2008</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> regrets for: Raphael,
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Guillaume, Michael</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> Yves, are you on the
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phone too?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>thierry</cite>> I ammuted but still
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have a terrible buzz</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> ok, let's get
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started</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> Yves, can you
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scribe?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>thierry</cite>> Buz still here
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;-(</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribe: davy</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribenick: davy</p>
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<p class='phone'>Accept minutes of last week?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Silvia</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'>minutes accepted</p>
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<h3 id="item01">2nd F2F meeting</h3>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> both groups will consist of
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10 people<br />
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... other people from MMLab and VRT medialab will also attend
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the meeting<br />
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... there is also a first draft of the agenda</p>
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<p class='phone'>erik goes through the draft agenda</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/SecondF2FAgenda">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/SecondF2FAgenda</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> sounds good to me!</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> anyone has some problems
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with the draft?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Silvia</cite>> looks good to me</p>
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<h3 id="item02">preparation of working draft</h3>
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<p class='phone'>3.5 existing technologies</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> work is ongoing</p>
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<p class='phone'>3.4 RTSP</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> this page seems ok for the
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moment</p>
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<p class='phone'>3.3 HTTP</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> raphael still has to do
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this</p>
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<p class='phone'>3.2 types of fragment addressing</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> I will take a shot at
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it as well (HTTP page)</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> put information into
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wiki, decisions about what to support are taken in f2f</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'>+1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Silvia</cite>> +!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> I'll add thing about
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pros and cons of different solutions</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> wrt HTTP use</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> get better soon! (at
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least 8 & 9 dec :)</p>
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<p class='phone'>3.1 use cases and requirements</p>
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<p class='phone'>silvia elaborates on the document</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> we should still decide
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what is in and out of scope</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION erik to review the use cases and
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requirements document</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-14
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- Review the use cases and requirements document [on Erik
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Mannens - due 2008-12-03].</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> it might be good to
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publish the use case document as a WG Note at some point
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(better to reference a frozen document form the main spec0</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> the minutes are
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empty:-(</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Silvia</cite>> Yves: it is my
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expectation that the wiki page will be turned into the FPWD by
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Raphael - is that how you think about it, too?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> silvia; yes</p>
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<p class='phone'>action Jack to add additional use cases in the
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wiki page</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-15
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- Add additional use cases in the wiki page [on Jack Jansen -
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due 2008-12-03].</p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-13</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-13 Examples
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of combining Media Fragment URI with SMIL clipBegin and clipEnd
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closed</p>
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<h3 id="item03">issues</h3>
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<p class='phone'>cache discussion</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> yes</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> leave this open untill next
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week</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> 4.issues</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> elaboration on Davy's
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page ... <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/HTTP_Fragment_Caches">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/HTTP_Fragment_Caches</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Silvia</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Types_of_Fragment_Addressing">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Types_of_Fragment_Addressing</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> Davy: still a lot of
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work has to be done on Table</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> Davy: difference
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between two pages ("types of adressing" & "HTTP Fragment
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caches") ... but of course some info is overlapping</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> this may be merged in
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the HTTP page</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> fragments axis in
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Types_of_Fragment_Addressing</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> still a page needed on
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caching (protocol & handshaking stuff)?</p>
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<h3 id="item04">aob</h3>
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<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> we should work on the
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syntax page<br />
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... people are waiting for that<br />
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... specially HTML5 group (video element)</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> is it a good idea for HTML5
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group? Values regarding fragments are not longer available as
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attributes</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> attributes are gone, but
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are still available in the API</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> we should provide some
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guidelines based on a given scenario</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> new member: Conrad
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Parker</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> he will probably only be
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active on mailinglist</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>thierry</cite>> No fine</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
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