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<title>W3C Multimedia Semantics Incubator Group: 2 October
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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>W3C Multimedia Semantics Incubator Group: 2 October Telecon;
1600 UTC</h1>
<h2>2 Oct 2006</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Sep/0058.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Jacco, Michael, Vassilis, George</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Giovanni, Chris, Stamatia, Ioannis, Raphael, Jeff,
Patrizia, Ovidio</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Vassilis</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>Jacco</dd>
</dl>
</div>
<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">ADMIN</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">LIAISON (SWBPD)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">XG UPDATES</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">3.1 Music Use case: (Giovanni,
Christian, Thierry)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">3.2 Bio-medical Image Use case:
(Melliyal)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">3.3 MPEG-7 metadata interoperability
Use case</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">3.4 Low level feature extraction Use
case:</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">3.5 Semantics from Multimedia
Authoring Use Case</a></li>
<li><a href="#item09">3.7 Algorithm representation Use
case: (Massimo, Patrizia, Ovidio)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item10">AOB</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>vassilis</cite>&gt; ++30210772aaaa is
now vassilis</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; do we actually
expect much more participants, today?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>vassilis</cite>&gt; zakim
++30210772aaaa is now vassilis</p>
<h3 id="item01">ADMIN</h3>
<p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 14
September 2006 telecon: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html:">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html:</a>
Accepted</p>
<p class='phone'>PROPOSED next telecon 13 October 2006; This
should be Thursday 12 October: Accepted</p>
<h3 id="item02">LIAISON (SWBPD)</h3><a name="action01" id=
"action01"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Yannis to report back to the group
about the outcome of the MPEG7 liason attempts after a visit of
ITI in Austria [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]
Done: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Sep/0022.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Sep/0022.html</a></p><a name="action02"
id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Chairs to contact UPF [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]:
Continued</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to take care of the
vocabularies pages [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'>Resources pages is still looking for a
volunteer</p>
<h3 id="item03">XG UPDATES</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; look at
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/WorkingGroup">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/WorkingGroup</a></p><a name="action04"
id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> All to make sure you have your
homepage on the XG wiki (preferably in RDF) [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]:
CONTINUED</p><a name="action05" id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to send mail to the list
requesting people to make a homepage on the wiki [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p><a name="action06"
id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Ovidio, Stamatia to review <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html">
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html</a>
beforemid October teleconf: Continued [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.mindswap.org/2002/rdfconvert/">http://www.mindswap.org/2002/rdfconvert/</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> Propose to agree upon
one format, like N3 or TURTLE, but not RDF/XML</p>
<p class='phone'>Converting is easy, see url posted by Michael
above</p>
<p class='phone'>We could also use Isaviz or something like
this as the standard graph drawing</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>PROPOSED:</cite> Use N3 as the standard
format in all use cases: ACCEPTED<br />
... Use Isaviz as the standard format in all use cases:
ACCEPTED</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>alessio</cite>&gt; hi all, im'm in IRC
bypassing a firewall by bluetooth connection</p>
<p class='phone'>No other comments on structure proposed by
Vassilis</p>
<p class='phone'>See maillist at <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Sep/0026.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Sep/0026.html</a></p><a name="action07"
id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to prepare structure for all
use cases by next Monday, DONE [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p><a name="action08"
id="action08"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis et al to inform group by mail
about the time table for this use case (Discussed later)
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p><a name="action09"
id="action09"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Patrizia and Massimo: report on
similarities among use cases: CONTINUED [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item04">3.1 Music Use case: (Giovanni, Christian,
Thierry)</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Postponed to next
meeting</p>
<h3 id="item05">3.2 Bio-medical Image Use case: (Melliyal)</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Postponed to next
meeting</p><a name="action10" id="action10"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Melli to set up a web demo for 28
September teleconf: Continued [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item06">3.3 MPEG-7 metadata interoperability Use
case</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> we need to solve
interoperability problems caused by different MPEG-7 OWL
version</p>
<p class='phone'>Michael and Vassilis plan to have a
interoperable solution for next teleconf</p>
<p class='phone'>Authors should be Vassilis, Michael and
Stamatia</p>
<h3 id="item07">3.4 Low level feature extraction Use case:</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Postponed to next
meeting</p>
<h3 id="item08">3.5 Semantics from Multimedia Authoring Use
Case</h3>
<p class='phone'>3.5 Semantics from Multimedia Authoring Use
case:</p>
<p class='phone'>Tagging use case</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>George:</cite> we received our first
review, this could be an example for other reviews</p>
<p class='phone'>We discussed the review and decided to work on
the internal interoperability, work on a SKOS-based
solution</p>
<p class='phone'>Reviews received by Stamatia and
Michael</p><a name="action11" id="action11"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael and Stamatia to review tagging
use case for next teleconf: DONE <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tagging_Use_Case_Review">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tagging_Use_Case_Review</a>
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item09">3.7 Algorithm representation Use case:
(Massimo, Patrizia, Ovidio)</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Postponed to next
meeting</p>
<p class='phone'>Topic 4. Future Meetings</p><a name="action12"
id="action12"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> chairs to set up questionnaire before
next teleconf: Continued [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item10">AOB</h3>
<p class='phone'>none</p>
</div>
<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael and
Stamatia to review tagging use case for next teleconf: DONE
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tagging_Use_Case_Review">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tagging_Use_Case_Review</a>
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to take
care of the vocabularies pages [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis et al to
inform group by mail about the time table for this use case
(Discussed later) [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to send
mail to the list requesting people to make a homepage on the wiki
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yannis to report
back to the group about the outcome of the MPEG7 liason attempts
after a visit of ITI in Austria [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]
Done: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Sep/0022.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Sep/0022.html</a><br />
&nbsp;<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> All to make
sure you have your homepage on the XG wiki (preferably in RDF)
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Chairs to
contact UPF [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> chairs to set
up questionnaire before next teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Melli to set
up a web demo for 28 September teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Ovidio,
Stamatia to review <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html">
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html</a>
beforemid October teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Patrizia and
Massimo: report on similarities among use cases [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to
prepare structure for all use cases by next Monday, [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/02-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
[End of minutes]<br />
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