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<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
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<h2>12 Jan 2011</h2>
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<p><a href=
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Agenda</a></p>
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<p>See also: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
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<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dl>
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<dt>Present</dt>
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<dd>Raphael, Thomas, Davy, Yves, Silvia, Philip</dd>
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<dt>Regrets</dt>
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<dd>Erik</dd>
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<dt>Chair</dt>
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<dd>Raphael</dd>
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<dt>Scribe</dt>
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<dd>raphael</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
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<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
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<li><a href="#item01">1. ADMIN</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item02">2. MEDIA FRAGMENT
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SPECIFICATION</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item03">3. HTML5 BUG:</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item04">4. RTSP processing</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item05">5. Use Cases</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item06">6. Test Cases</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item07">7. AOB</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'></p>
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<p class='phone'></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 12 January
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2011</p>
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<h3 id="item01">1. ADMIN</h3>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> management team discussing
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this afternoon about charter renewing<br />
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... I think it makes sense to have another LC step, but very
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short, 2 weeks<br />
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... given the substantial changes made<br />
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... and so we give time to get more comments</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> will this enable to have
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the RTSP part in the document?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> the problem will be to get
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implementations</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Davy:</cite> we have a server side
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implementation of RTSP</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> I think that separate note
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for RTSP would be better</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> poll is controversial on
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this aspect<br />
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... results are: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results">http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>Propose to accept the minutes of the last week
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telecon:</p>
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<p class='phone'><a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'>+1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'>minutes accepted</p>
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<h3 id="item02">2. MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION</h3>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-199?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-199 --
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Raphaël Troncy to add a clarification text regarding the
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purpose of the grammar -- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/199">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/199</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-199</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-199 Add a
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clarification text regarding the purpose of the grammar
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closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-200?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-200 --
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Raphaël Troncy to send a proposal to close ISSUE-19 that
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consists in: clarification text + normative parsing algorithm
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-- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/200">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/200</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-200</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-200 Send a
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proposal to close ISSUE-19 that consists in: clarification text
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+ normative parsing algorithm closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>ISSUE-19?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ISSUE-19 --
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Parsing must be defined normatively in the MF spec itself --
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open</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> we cannot close this
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issue yet<br />
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... Philip sent patches that I have to review<br />
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... and include them in the document</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-196?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-196 --
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Raphaël Troncy to address comments from the Media Annotations
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WG and draft a reply -- due 2010-11-09 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/196">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/196</a></p>
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<h3 id="item03">3. HTML5 BUG:</h3>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-205?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-205 --
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Silvia Pfeiffer to send the MF clarification text to the HTML
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mailinglist -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/205">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/205</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-205</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-205 Send
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the MF clarification text to the HTML mailinglist closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-206?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-206 --
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Raphaël Troncy to reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker --
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due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/206">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/206</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-206</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-206 Reopen
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the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker closed</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Ian has closed the bug
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again<br />
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... he complains because we have 2 issues in one bug<br />
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... first issue, he replied</p>
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<p class='phone'>"For comment 10 issue 1: the spec already says
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as much as it needs to say on the</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>subject:</cite> "If either the media
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resource or the address of the current media</p>
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<p class='phone'>resource indicate a particular start time,
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then set the initial playback</p>
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<p class='phone'>position to that time and then seek seek to
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that time." (in the resource fetch</p>
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<p class='phone'>algorithm)</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> second issue, he
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replied</p>
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<p class='phone'>"For comment 10 issue 2: that's a browser UI
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issue and out of scope of specs</p>
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<p class='phone'>such as HTML.</p>
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<p class='phone'>See also <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723">http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> I agree with Ian for
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comment on issue 1<br />
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... I suggest to defer to Silvia for comment on issue 2</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Thomas:</cite> I think Ian is correct
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for issue 2</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Silvia indicates we
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should open more bugs and would like to discuss them<br />
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... I suggest that Silvia mails the group which bugs she would
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like we open</p>
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<h3 id="item04">4. RTSP processing</h3>
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<p class='phone'>ISSUE-18?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ISSUE-18 -- RTSP
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processing of Media Fragments URI -- open</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/18">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/18</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-207?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-207 --
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Raphaël Troncy to setup a poll regarding the fact that RTSP
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will be discussed in a separate note -- due 2010-12-15 --
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OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/207">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/207</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-207</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-207 Setup a
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poll regarding the fact that RTSP will be discussed in a
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separate note closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>Results of the poll: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results">http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> 4 are for a separate note
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and 3 for inclusion in the main spec</p>
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<p class='phone'>Yves, Thomas and Erik haven't replied yet</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> I abstain</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Thomas:</cite> I don't have an opinion
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on this (lack of knowledge of RTSP), so I abstain as well</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> from the comments, the
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main fear is to delay the process ... but it seems we will have
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another LC anyway<br />
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... so I will rephrase the question: who is really *against*
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having this part in the main spec?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> my main concern is the
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delay to get the implementations of this part<br />
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... but this is not a main concern</p><a name="action01" id=
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Davy to add the RTSP processing
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section as an appending to the main document [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-210
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- Add the RTSP processing section as an appending to the main
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document [on Davy Van Deursen - due 2011-01-19].</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> content to add is at
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UA_Server_RTSP_Communication">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UA_Server_RTSP_Communication</a><br />
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... I will ask ALL to commit to a date where we are all here
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for inviting Addison to a telecon</p>
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<h3 id="item05">5. Use Cases</h3>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> NEC is a new member in
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the group<br />
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... one representant suggest a new use case, see <a href=
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Jan/0005.html</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> good use case but no more
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requirements that what we have</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Davy:</cite> perhaps he wants to have 2
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regions in one URI ?<br />
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... perhaps he wants moving regions too</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> perhaps we could adapt
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our text in the UC document with this new input</p>
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<h3 id="item06">6. Test Cases</h3>
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<p class='phone'>ACTIOn-209?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-209 -- Davy
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Van Deursen to convert TCs from the wiki to an RDF version --
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due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/209">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/209</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Davy:</cite> I'm working on it, hope to
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finish it by next week<br />
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... I'm also working on an HTML visualization so we don't have
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to look at the RDF</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> (did everybody
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leave the call?)</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Davy:</cite> we will need an entire
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telecon about test cases to re-review them later on<br />
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... include-setup has been added in the meantime</p>
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<h3 id="item07">7. AOB</h3>
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<p class='phone'>[silence]</p>
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<p class='phone'>meeting adjourned</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> same here</p>
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Davy to add the
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RTSP processing section as an appending to the main document
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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