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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>MAWG Telco</h1>
<h2>11 Jan 2011</h2>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Jean, Pierre, thierry, pierre-antoine, mari_carmen,
felix, werner, veronique</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>chris</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>thierry</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>Werner</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">previous minutes</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">next meeting</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">next F2F</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">workshop at ericsson</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">action items</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">Follow up on Implementation of LC
comments</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">updates to ontology</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">API LC comments</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; scribe: Werner</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; scribenick:
wbailer</p>
<h3 id="item01">previous minutes</h3>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/12/21-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/21-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/12/21-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/21-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>approved</p>
<h3 id="item02">next meeting</h3>
<p class='phone'>jan. 18</p>
<h3 id="item03">next F2F</h3>
<p class='phone'>cupertino, feb 15-16</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; registration</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; &lt;<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/MAWG-Cupertino/%3E">http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/MAWG-Cupertino/&gt;</a></p>
<h3 id="item04">workshop at ericsson</h3>
<p class='phone'>feb 17)</p>
<p class='phone'>see Joakims mail: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Jan/0006.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Jan/0006.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I cannot go to the
F2F, nor the workshop, although both are interesting, i won't
go on on the W3C activity after Feb 1st</p>
<p class='phone'>Jean-pierre, werner interested in attending
ws</p>
<p class='phone'>pierre-antoine, felix will not attend f2f</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; Veronique not
either</p>
<h3 id="item05">action items</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mcsuarez</cite>&gt; Mari Carmen
Suarez-Figueroa will not attend F2F, sorry.</p>
<p class='phone'>action 320 on vero</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't
find user - 320</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-320
véronique</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; is it done ?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I sent the email in
November or December</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; ... got no answer back
and saw nothing back on the list</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-320</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-320 draft
response for open issues in lc 2418 closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-348 jean
Pierre</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; pending</p>
<p class='phone'>348 pending</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-381
veronique ?</p>
<p class='phone'>vero, status of 381?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I did it a long time
ago, and there was another reviewer who checked out that the
changes were implemented, have there been other changes to
re-check up at the last F2f?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-383
Felix</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; pending will be
done next week</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; pending</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; Veronique
ACTION-381 veronique ?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I did it a long time
ago, and there was another reviewer who checked out that the
changes were implemented, have there been other changes to
re-check up at the last F2f?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>fsasaki</cite>&gt; felix: updated
ACTION-383 for a deadline of 2011-01-19</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-381</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-381 Review
LC 2395 closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-386</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-386 Change
float to double in the RDF ontology closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-387 Thieryy
done</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-388 Thieryy
done</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-387</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-387 Add
URIs as allowed values for ma:language and ma:compression
closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-388</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-388 Remove
'ma:' from the mapping table closed</p>
<h3 id="item06">Follow up on Implementation of LC comments</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/0082.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/0082.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>emphasis on ontology, to move to 2nd lc
asap</p>
<p class='phone'>finish lc comments by end of next week</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; what is the URL at
which we can access the content mentionned in the mail <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/0082.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/0082.html</a>
?</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/att-0082/LC_Status.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/att-0082/LC_Status.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>LC Comment -2405 jean-pierre summarised open
issues</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> will check who is
responsible editors and assign task to work on these issues</p>
<p class='phone'>LC Comment -2389</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; can someone post the
URL of the LC comments list? Could not find it.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; woops, posted above,
just saw it</p>
<p class='phone'>werner to send text to be included in sec 6,
thierry to include it</p>
<p class='phone'>LC Comment -2403:</p>
<p class='phone'>According to WG notes: "Véronique will add a
Subtitles example"</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; -- LC Comment
-2403: NO - partially implemented :Subtitles example
missing</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; According to WG
notes: "Véronique will add a Subtitles example" - NOT DONE!</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; Véronique can you
handle this ?</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Véronique to add subtitles example -
lc comment 2403 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-391
- Add subtitles example - lc comment 2403 [on Véronique Malaisé
- due 2011-01-18].</p>
<p class='phone'>LC Comment -2404</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; review by myself,
I think</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I can't remember what
this "add a subtitle example" refers to...</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; can someone else do
it?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0085.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0085.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>pierre-antoine to check if addition is in
current version in dev space</p><a name="action02" id=
"action02"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> pierre-antoine to send thierry the
text to be included - lc 2404 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-392
- Send thierry the text to be included - lc 2404 [on
Pierre-Antoine Champin - due 2011-01-18].</p>
<p class='phone'>veronique, can you try to find out with help
of thierry to find out what the issue was about</p>
<p class='phone'>LC Comment -2417</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; can we email later? or
skype? I'm online</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0144.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0144.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I thought that the
subtitle example was one of the examples provided in the
example section</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to ask PLING for example - lc
2417 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-393
- Ask PLING for example - lc 2417 [on Thierry Michel - due
2011-01-18].</p>
<p class='phone'>LC Comment -2418:</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; Thierry, Werner?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I thought that the
subtitle example was one of the examples provided in the
example section</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; ... so it is there</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; ... but not related to
what I've done I think that Chris added it</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; if someone understands
better what should be done, please go ahead with the action
point!</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I don't
know</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to check implementation of
LC2418 - action 320 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-394
- Check implementation of LC2418 - action 320 [on Thierry
Michel - due 2011-01-18].</p>
<p class='phone'>veronique, thierry will check this</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; thanks!</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; 2419 looks that it
is implemented according to Jean Pierre</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; API discussion
Florian and Chris missing ...</p>
<h3 id="item07">updates to ontology</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; Chris said an email
saying that he agreed with Florian's comments and is OK to
implement them in the API document</p>
<p class='phone'>comments by mari carmen before christmas</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> propose to review
comments until next week, together with pierre-antoine, mari
carmen and tobias<br />
... comments not yet implemented</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I agree with J-P
Evain's answers</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> proposed changes not
yet implement, to be reviewed and agreed before enxt week</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mcsuarez</cite>&gt; i agree</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; +1</p><a name=
"action05" id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> jean-pierre to make proposal for
updated ontology by mail together with pierre-antoine, mari
carmen and tobias [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-395
- Make proposal for updated ontology by mail together with
pierre-antoine, mari carmen and tobias [on Jean-Pierre EVAIN -
due 2011-01-18].</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; -- LC Comment
-2418:</p>
<h3 id="item08">API LC comments</h3>
<p class='phone'>LC Comment -2406</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; -- LC Comment
-2406</p>
<p class='phone'>joakim contacted browser implementors, but no
response</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-379 : Tobias
to review LC 2406 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-380: Felix
to review LC 2406 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-380 Review
LC 2406 notes added</p>
<p class='phone'>felix proposes to go back and talk to
doug</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to discuss with joakim and
send mail to doug [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-396
- Discuss with joakim and send mail to doug [on Thierry Michel
- due 2011-01-18].</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; -- LC Comment
-2395</p>
<p class='phone'>LC Comment -2395</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; done, explanation of
exceptions is in the current version of the api doc</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; -- LC Comment -2394
: OK : Fully implemented ???</p>
<p class='phone'>not done, text is still at beginning of
section 3.1</p><a name="action07" id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> chris to implement issue from lc 2394
regarding HTML5 - HTMLMediaElement implements MediaResource
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-397
- Implement issue from lc 2394 regarding HTML5 -
HTMLMediaElement implements MediaResource [on Chris Poppe - due
2011-01-18].</p>
<p class='phone'>thierry asks for review of ontology document,
it will be frozen after going to second lc</p><a name=
"action08" id="action08"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to send reminder email to
group to review ontology document [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-398
- Send reminder email to group to review ontology document [on
Thierry Michel - due 2011-01-18].</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; bye bye</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mcsuarez</cite>&gt; bye</p>
<p class='phone'>[adjourned]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; goodbye!</p>
</div>
<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> chris to
implement issue from lc 2394 regarding HTML5 - HTMLMediaElement
implements MediaResource [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> jean-pierre to
make proposal for updated ontology by mail together with
pierre-antoine, mari carmen and tobias [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> pierre-antoine to
send thierry the text to be included - lc 2404 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to ask
PLING for example - lc 2417 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to check
implementation of LC2418 - action 320 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to
discuss with joakim and send mail to doug [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to send
reminder email to group to review ontology document [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Véronique to add
subtitles example - lc comment 2403 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
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"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html</a>
People with action items: chris jean-pierre pierre-antoine ronique thierry v
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