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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
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<h1>MAWG</h1>
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<h2>09 Jun 2009</h2>
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<p>See also: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>
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<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dt>Present</dt>
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<dd>daniel, florian, werner, joakim, tmichel, tobias,
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veronique, felix, wonsuk, pchampin</dd>
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<dt>Regrets</dt>
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<dd>chris</dd>
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<dt>Chair</dt>
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<dd>Joakim</dd>
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<dt>Scribe</dt>
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<dd>florian</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="#agenda">Topics</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>veroniqueM</cite>> hi! I will not
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be able to join on the phone, other meetings going on at the
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same time, but I will follow on IRC</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> hi welcome!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribe: florian</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> Scribe: Florian</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>minutes accepted</p>
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<p class='phone'>next telecon: 16.06</p>
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<p class='phone'>no telecon at 23.06. because of he F2F in
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Stockholm</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> <a href=
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"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jun/0018.html">
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jun/0018.html</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> <a href=
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"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jun/0018.html">
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jun/0018.html</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ACTION-43:</cite> ongoing</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-43 Check
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XMP rating notes added</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ACTION-47:</cite> ongoing</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-47 And
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Frank to investiage existing approach for setting metadata on a
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"metamodel level" (or "ontology level") notes added</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> wants to know the meaning
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of Action-105</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> coming up with some
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vocabulary, terminology, ...</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ACTION-105:</cite> ongoing</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-105 Daniel
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to ask members for the definition of contributor types notes
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added</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> is not sure whether the
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requirements document is updated as mentioned in Action-121</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> allready updated</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> there are linking
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problems to the right version of the document</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> shouldn't the link
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point to the "latest version" URI?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> make the change</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> linked page in MAWG
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page is 20090119 version, so needs to be updated in our web
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page</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ACTION-121:</cite> ongoing</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-121 Remind
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doug to publish requirements document notes added</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ACTION-122:</cite> close</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-122 Talk to
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with Phillipe about the delay of the publication notes
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added</p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-122</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-122 Talk to
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with Phillipe about the delay of the publication closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>next item: Initial draft of "Ontology for
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Media Entity 1.0"</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> veronique applied
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comments to the initial document</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> <a href=
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"http://tinyurl.com/m4vlrj">http://tinyurl.com/m4vlrj</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> Use Cases and
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Requirements link on <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> change of the title of
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section 2<br />
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... added "complex" property value type</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> ... now updated to
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-annot-reqs-20090604">http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-annot-reqs-20090604</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> introduction changed to
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the comments of veronique</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>veroniqueM</cite>> I also changed
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other sections...</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> moved the mapping
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expression</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>veroniqueM</cite>> according to the
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proposition I sent on the mailing list last week</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> all the differences can
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be found in <a href=
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"http://tinyurl.com/m4vlrj">http://tinyurl.com/m4vlrj</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> Section 3.2. only a table
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with editorial notes?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> should we add
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descriptions?<br />
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... descriptions should be added in a second version</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> this section only a
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placeholder?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>felix:</cite> columns in the tables are
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missing (semantic mapping)<br />
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... syntactic level mapping are missing</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> mute aaaa</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Werner:</cite> first looking at
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standards (for datatypes), than adopt thema, than specify the
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mapping</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Felix:</cite> we need syntactic level
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mapping<br />
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... accordiung datatypes in existing formats</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> or "comma
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separated list of values" vs. actual multiple values</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Felix:</cite> extending the information
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in a similar way in a next draft like in CableLabs 1.1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> action - everybody
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responsible for a format: add a column describing syntactic
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information ("data types", see cable lab column "Type") to his
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table</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
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find user - -</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> werner?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Werner:</cite> agrees with the need for
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choosing the datatypes based on used datatypes in other
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standards</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tobias</cite>> +1 for Werner</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Felix:</cite> +1 for Werner</p>
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<p class='phone'>+1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> +1</p><a name=
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"action01" id="action01"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Felix to check - everybody responsible
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for a format: add a column describing syntactic information
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("data types", see cable lab column "Type") to his table
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-124
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- Check - everybody responsible for a format: add a column
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describing syntactic information ("data types", see cable lab
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column "Type") to his table [on Felix Sasaki - due
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2009-06-16].</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> is this version of
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ontology draft close for publishment?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> initial version of
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mapping table should be checked by Thierry</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> let's go for the
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publication as quick as possible to get further feedbacks from
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outside experts</p>
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<p class='phone'>+1 for daniel</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> will check the document
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and discuss it offline with Wonsuk</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> publishment of the
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document possible till friday?<br />
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... document needs to be varified by the w3c</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> different things to do
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in order to publish<br />
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... xhtml validation<br />
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... no broken links in the document<br />
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... comeing up with a list of TODOs on the ontology draft<br />
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... publications only on tuesday and thursday (request one day
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before)</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> after Thierries comments
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we will publish the document<br />
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... make recordings for an improvement of the first version of
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the ontology doc</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Werner:</cite> the last comment of
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veronique remainded on the discussion of the last F2F where we
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thought about several layers of complexity</p>
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<p class='phone'>+1 for Werner</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> +1 to werner</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> better uzsage for
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reasoning and usability<br />
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... add note that more formal defintiions will come up in next
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versions of the draft, oerhaps in the introduction or ion the
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property section list</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> agrees with Werner, add
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this description to the property section</p>
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<p class='phone'>unmute me</p><a name="action02" id=
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Florian make wiki page for the
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improvements of the ontology document (type column, ...)
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-125
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- Make wiki page for the improvements of the ontology document
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(type column, ...) [on Florian Stegmaier - due 2009-06-16].</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Florian:</cite> will try to summarize
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rthe open issues in a wiki page for the F2F in Stockholm</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Felix:</cite> wants to define a
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serialization for properties</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> out of scope from the
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goals of our group</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> s/ Werner Werner</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> no problem :-)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> Felix: I am worried
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that others will just define one or several serializations, so
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better we do it before</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> AOBs?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> Felix:
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functionality for setting properties in existing formats and
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their serialization might not always possible</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> bye</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> bye~</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> thanks editors for
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the good work!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> yeah you did
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good</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> Then you should
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email the link to the list please!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> ok thanks, see
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you!</p>
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<p class='phone'>bye everybody!</p>
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<p class='phone'>have a nice week!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> chair: joakim</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Felix to check -
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everybody responsible for a format: add a column describing
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syntactic information ("data types", see cable lab column "Type")
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to his table [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Florian make wiki
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page for the improvements of the ontology document (type column,
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...) [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
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