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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>MAWG Telco</h1>
<h2>30 Nov 2010</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0145.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>joakim, veronique(irc), chris(phone), marcel(phone),
werner, pierre-antoine</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>jean-pierre, florian, felix, tobias, wonsuk, daniel</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Joakim</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>wbailer</dd>
</dl>
</div>
<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">previous minutes</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">next meeting</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">action items</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">ontology / rdf</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">lc comment status</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jsderber</cite>&gt; Hi, did you call
in to the US number?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jsderber</cite>&gt;
46.7.61.26.aacc</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I am on IRC, but can't
reach you by phone</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; scribenick:
wbailer</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jsderber</cite>&gt; Thanks for
scribingWerner</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; chair: joakim</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jsderber</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
<h3 id="item01">previous minutes</h3>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/16-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/16-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>accepted</p>
<h3 id="item02">next meeting</h3>
<p class='phone'>Tuesday, dec. 7</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jsderber</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open</a></p>
<h3 id="item03">action items</h3>
<p class='phone'>keep 269 open</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; about nb 293: I
rewrote the properties' description according to the format
that we had agreed upon, edited the change in the location
property description and did other minor changes</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I could not upload the
new version to SVN, so I sent the XML to WonSuk, Daniel and
Joakim</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; WonSuk can upload it
next week he said</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; if anyone can do it
beforehand, let me know!</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; but the action can be
closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-293</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-293 work
with chris and raphael to update the properties of the ontology
doc closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jsderber</cite>&gt; Is it conected
with action-294?</p>
<p class='phone'>action 302 still pending</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't
find user - 302</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; @Joakim: I suppose so,
I don't really get the meaning of that action item</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; action 347 is also
closed, I sent my review 2 weeks ago on the list</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't
find user - 347</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jsderber</cite>&gt; Veronique: Action
309 - Did you change anything of the markup of
nomative/informative, probably with specific class to
visualise?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jsderber</cite>&gt; Welcome
Marcel!</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; @Joakim: no, that
action was on WonSuk</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I think he did it
though</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; Thierry gave him some
CSS I think</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-294</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-294 check
together with other table editors option for clarifying
type/role attributes closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jsderber</cite>&gt; Veronique: how
about action 311?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; my action 320 is still
open, I had to have the new property syntax implemented to do
it, I'll draft the answer as soon as the document is uploaded
and can be shown to Dough</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; @Joakim: I think it's
closed, I finished rewriting the property table, that Raphael
had started</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-311</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-311
ontology doc editing particularly table, etc closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; to be reviewed though
:)</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> wonsuk to upload veronique's version
to CVS [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-372
- Upload veronique's version to CVS [on WonSuk Lee - due
2010-12-07].</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Chris</cite>&gt; I can review it (once
the document is online somewhere(</p>
<p class='phone'>320 is pending</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; @Werner: yes, once the
doc is online, I can send a draft answer to DOugh, he wanted to
see how the updated property description was answering some of
his concerns</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; ... but it's still
pending meanwhile</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-329</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-329 Check
if comment 2389 is in the document closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-331</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-331 Check
if comment 2398 is in the document closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-332</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-332 Check
if comment 2403 is in the document closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-335</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-335 Check
if comment 2404 is in the document closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; i can</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; I can hear you,
but have no functioning microphone</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; sorry about
that...</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; about my
proposals</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; a number of them
have been restated by Jean-Pierre in his mail</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; and will be
discussed next week</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-336</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-336 Check
if comment 2405 is in the document closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-338</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-338 Check
if comment 2411 is in the document closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-340</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-340 Check
if comment 2417 is in the document closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-341</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-341 Check
if comment 2417 is in the document closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-347</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-347 Check
if comment 2410 is in the document closed</p>
<p class='phone'>351 pending</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jsderber</cite>&gt; Veronique: What
about changing "our ontology" to "this ontology" in the
ontology doc?</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-352</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-352
Re-organize the API document so that the return type interfaces
appear in a later section closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; @Joakim: was this on
me? I though someone else had checked this out...</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-353</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-353 Write
an example of how the API is to be used, to appear in the API
doc *before* the list of return type interfaces closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-355</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-355 Provide
example RDF files for the mapping target closed</p>
<p class='phone'>356 pending</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-357</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-357
Restructure the list of "interfaces", as discussed on Thursday
4/11 closed</p>
<p class='phone'>action-358</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-358</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-358 Add
descriptive information to some sections for example 3.1.1, and
what is an "interface" closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Chris</cite>&gt; the new version of
the API document can be found at:</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-359</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-359 Add
type and value in all return types closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Chris</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html">
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Chris</cite>&gt; it would be good that
someone checks out this version</p><a name="action02" id=
"action02"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> florian to review Chris' changes to
API document [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-373
- Review Chris' changes to API document [on Florian Stegmaier -
due 2010-12-07].</p>
<p class='phone'>360 pending</p>
<p class='phone'>on 361: joakim sent mails to 5 vendors, CC to
Philippe Le Hegaret, waiting for response</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-361</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-361 Ask web
browser vendors for feed-back on API spec closed</p>
<p class='phone'>362 seems to be duplicate of 361</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-362</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-362 Ask
browser vendors for their opinion on the mawg documents.
closed</p>
<p class='phone'>365 pending</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-366</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-366 (with
help of API editors) Add section in the specification: Sync
Interface (for web service implmenters) and Async Interface
(for web developers closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close action367</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-367</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-367 Verify
what's the most exact word as (CreateDate or CreationDate) to a
native closed</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> chris to change createdate to
creationdate in the api doc [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-374
- Change createdate to creationdate in the api doc [on Chris
Poppe - due 2010-12-07].</p><a name="action04" id=
"action04"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> véronique to change createdate to
creationdate in the ontology doc [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-375
- Change createdate to creationdate in the ontology doc [on
Véronique Malaisé - due 2010-12-07].</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> format vs ma:compression</p>
<p class='phone'>are extended mime types defined for enough
formats (see jean-pierre's comment)</p>
<p class='phone'>for complete resource, ma:format could be
enough when using extended mime type</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> propose to discuss on
list until next meeting and then make a decision</p>
<p class='phone'>368 is pending</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; I suggest to add
an action to update the RDF ontology for createDate -&gt;
creationDate</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; he has done that,
yes</p>
<p class='phone'>close action-370</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-370 Send an
e-mail about proposals from the RDF task-force closed</p>
<h3 id="item04">ontology / rdf</h3>
<p class='phone'>moved to next week</p>
<h3 id="item05">lc comment status</h3><a name="action05" id=
"action05"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> joakim to review LC 2393 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-376
- Review LC 2393 [on Joakim Söderberg - due
2010-12-07].</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> chris to review LC2393 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-377
- Review LC2393 [on Chris Poppe - due 2010-12-07].</p><a name=
"action07" id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> wbailer to review LC 2395 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-378
- Review LC 2395 [on Werner Bailer - due
2010-12-07].</p><a name="action08" id="action08"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> vèronique to review LC2395 [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't
find user - vèronique</p><a name="action09" id="action09"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> tobias to review LC 2406 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-379
- Review LC 2406 [on Tobias Bürger - due
2010-12-07].</p><a name="action10" id="action10"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> felix to review LC 2406 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-380
- Review LC 2406 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2010-12-07].</p>
<p class='phone'>[adjourned]</p>
</div>
<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> chris to change
createdate to creationdate in the api doc [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> chris to review
LC2393 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> felix to review
LC 2406 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> florian to review
Chris' changes to API document [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> joakim to review
LC 2393 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> tobias to review
LC 2406 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> vèronique to
review LC2395 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> véronique to
change createdate to creationdate in the ontology doc [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> wbailer to review
LC 2395 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> wonsuk to upload
veronique's version to CVS [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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