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<p><a href="../../../">W3C</a> > <a href="./">WebOnt</a></p>
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<h1>Fifth Meeting of the W3C Web Ontology Working Group</h1>
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<h2>9-10 January 2003<br />
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Manchester, UK</h2>
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<address>
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<p>editing IN PROGRESS by <a href="/People/Connolly/">Dan Connolly</a> ,
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based on notes from various scribes<br />
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</address>
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<h2>Agenda/Contents</h2>
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<p>also: <a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Dec/0283.html">preliminary
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agenda</a> of 26Dec</p>
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<ul>
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<li>Wednesday, Jan 8
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<ul>
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<li>1930 on - Social gathering at KRO<sup>2</sup> bar (details<a
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href="http://wonderweb.semanticweb.org/mcr-f2f.shtml">local
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arrangement page</a>)</li>
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</ul>
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</li>
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<li>Thursday, JAN 9: 8:30 AM - 5:30 PM
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<p>Morning:</p>
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<ul>
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<li>0830: Entry, getting machines up, etc.</li>
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<li>0900: <a href="#Meeting">Meeting start</a> - announcements re Local
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arrangements, by chairs, etc.</li>
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<li>0930: <a href="#Working">Plenary: 30 min round of comments on
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current WDs</a></li>
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<li>1000: <a href="#Document">Subgroups for all WDs to discuss
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documents in detail</a>
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<p>Aim: propose final changes for LC (note: TEST document group will
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discuss next steps, implementations, etc.)</p>
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</li>
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</ul>
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<p>1200: Lunch</p>
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<ul>
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<li>1300: <a href="#Afternoon">Plenary: Implementations and demos</a>
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<p>Presentation of 15-20 min. by each (potential) implementor on
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implementation status/plans</p>
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<p>(expected presentations/demos:</p>
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<ul>
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<li>Invited Guests: Ray Fergerson (Protege),Jan Wielemaker
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(SWI-Prolog), Bijan Parsia (UMCP MINDSWAP)</li>
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<li>WG members: Ian Horrocks/Sean Becherof, Jo De Roo, Jeremy
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Carroll, Jeff Heflin (?), Dan Connolly</li>
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</ul>
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</li>
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<li>1730: <a href="#L2656">debrief from editors' break-out</a></li>
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<li>Evening: Drinks at Lass O'Gowrie, Dinner at Yang Sing (see<a
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href="http://wonderweb.semanticweb.org/mcr-f2f.shtml">local
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arrangement page</a>)</li>
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</ul>
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</li>
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<li>Friday, JAN 10: 9AM - 5:00PM
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<p>Morning</p>
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<ul>
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<li>0900: <a href="#L2689">Plenary: Discussion</a> led by Connolly on
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details of
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<ol>
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<li>Needs for LC (and how long to keep it open)</li>
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<li>Needs to move from LC to PR (skipping CR)
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<p>expected outcome - Resolutions to move to LC by <date>
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for <period> for each document</p>
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</li>
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</ol>
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</li>
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<li>1000: <a href="#Test">Implementation: Implementation Report,
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Conformance track</a> (main room):
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<ul>
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<li>overview by Connolly on WG expectations for implementations
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<p>discussion on which implementations would (potentially) cover
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which OWL features (i.e. construction the first implementation
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matrix)</p>
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</li>
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<li>strategy for responding to LC comments</li>
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</ul>
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</li>
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</ul>
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<p>1200-1330: Lunch</p>
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<ul>
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<li>1330: Afternoon (plenary, editing of docs may continue):
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<ul>
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<li><a href="#Closure">Closure on Requirements</a></li>
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<li><a href="#Test1">Test Document Review</a></li>
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<li><a href="#AllDiffere">AllDifferent</a></li>
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<li>planning for LC and CR/PR</li>
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<li>UML/XML presentation syntaxes (only if still needed)</li>
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</ul>
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</li>
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<li>1600 - 1700: <a href="#Schedule">Plenary: WG Schedule</a> (telcon)
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<ul>
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<li>topics for Tech Plenary</li>
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</ul>
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</li>
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</ul>
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</li>
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</ul>
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<h2><a name="Meeting" id="Meeting">Meeting Start: Attendance,
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Announcements</a></h2>
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<p>from <a href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T09-07-51">IRC notes starting
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09:07:51Z</a> and <a href="#Membership">WG membership records</a> and <a
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href="/2002/12/webont-manchester-registrants.html">registration data</a>, <a
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href="http://cgi.w3.org/Register/formEdit.pl?_w3c_special=listRegistrants&_w3c_meetingName=WebontManchester">internal
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reg data</a></p>
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<ol>
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<li>Jean-François Baget, INRIA</li>
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<li>Sean Bechhofer, Network Inference</li>
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<li>Stephen Buswell, Stilo Technology (part)</li>
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<li>Jeremy Carroll, Hewlett Packard Company</li>
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<li>Dan Connolly, W3C (team contact)</li>
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<li>Peter Crowther, Network Inference</li>
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<li>Jonathan Dale, Fujitsu Limited</li>
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<li>Jos De Roo, Agfa-Gevaert N. V.</li>
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<li>D.C. De Roure, University of Southampton</li>
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<li>Mike Dean</li>
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<li>Jeff Heflin</li>
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<li>Ziv Hellman, Unicorn Solutions Inc.</li>
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<li>James Hendler, Maryland Information and Network Dynamics Lab at the
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University of Maryland (co-chair)</li>
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<li>Bernard Horan, Sun Microsystems, Inc.</li>
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<li>Ian Horrocks, Network Inference</li>
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<li>Deborah McGuinness, Stanford (in part)</li>
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<li>Peter Patel-Schneider, Lucent Technologies</li>
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<li>Guus Schreiber, Ibrow</li>
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<li>John Stanton, Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA)</li>
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<li>Herman ter Horst, Philips Electronic N.V.</li>
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<li>Frank van Harmelen, Ibrow</li>
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<li>Raphael Volz,, Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI)</li>
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<li>Christopher Welty, IBM Corporation</li>
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</ol>
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<p>Invited participants:</p>
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<ul>
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<li>Ray Fergerson
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<p>invited from Stanford, Protoge developer</p>
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</li>
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<li>Bijan Parsia
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<p>UMD MINDSWAP</p>
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</li>
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<li>Jan Wielemaker
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<p>swi-prolog</p>
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</li>
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<li>Jeff Pan, u. Manchester</li>
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<li>Berkowitz (sp?)</li>
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</ul>
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<p>excused: Barnette, Eshelman, Euzenat, Fensel, Finin, Hori, Kravtsova,
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Maedche, Marchiori, Motta, Pike, Trastour</p>
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<p>regrets: Buswell (2nd day), Borden, Gibbins, Hayes, Klein, Lassila,
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McGuinness (remote only), Obrst, Sabbouh, Shimizu, Michael Smith, Stein,
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Thompson, Wallace</p>
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<p>??: Brysse, Iannuzzelli, Jeckle, Olivry, Sintek, Ned Smith, Stickler,
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Yanosy</p>
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<h3>Announcing the First owl.owl award</h3>
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<p>Hendler presented Frank van Harmelen with the owl.owl award for <a
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href="ftf4#Semantic">brokering the semantic truce in Bristol</a>.</p>
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<p><a href="owl_owl_award-med.jpg"><img alt="Frank and his owl.owl award"
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src="owl_owl_award-sm.jpg" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="owl_owl_award.jpg">photo</a> by Bijan</p>
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<h3><a name="Working" id="Working">Working Draft review points, around the
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table</a></h3>
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<p>Hendler: editors: pls note <a href="/Guide/pubrules#head">new copyright
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statement</a> updated for 2003 and INRIA->ERCIM transition.</p>
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<p>We went round the table, giving comments on the WG documents.
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<em>see</em><a href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T09-13-03"><em>IRC notes starting
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09:13:03Z</em></a></p>
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<p>Some email comments were noted:</p>
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<ul>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webont-comments/2003Jan/0000.html">Dave
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Beckett's review of Semantics</a></li>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webont-comments/2003Jan/0001.html">Brian
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McBride's review of Ref</a></li>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0156.html">Mike
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D's email re: datatypes</a></li>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0071.html">OWL
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Reference for F2F 5</a></li>
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</ul>
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<p><strong>ACTION Carroll</strong>: - add suvj pred aClass test case in I5.3
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(09:43:01)</p>
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<p><strong>ACTION Carroll</strong>: - check sameInstanceAs/sameClassAs tests
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for FULL clarify different semantics (09:58:38)</p>
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<p>No decisions were made.</p>
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<h2><a name="Document" id="Document">Document Review Break-Outs</a></h2>
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<p>informal <a href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T10-52-53">notes in irc notes
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start at 10:52:53Z</a></p>
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<p>After some discussion of informative material (esp. role/purpose of
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Reference and Feature Synopsis), break-out groups were formed:</p>
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<ol>
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<li><a href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T11-31-40">Guide breakout notes</a> are
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in the IRC log, starting at 11:31:40Z</li>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Jan/0022.html">reference
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break-out</a></li>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Jan/0021.html">synopsis
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break-out</a></li>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0168.html">Semantics
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Breakout</a></li>
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</ol>
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<p>we resumed in plenary at 13:33:26 (per <a
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href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T13-33-26">IRC notes</a>) to debrief from the
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break-outs.</p>
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<p><strong>ACTION Welty</strong>: explain that "in OWL Lite, all names need
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types" in the guide (13:43:49)</p>
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<p><strong>ACTION Carroll</strong>: writes a section about the constraints to
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go from RDF to OWL-DL/LITE (13:56:05)</p>
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<p>No decisions.</p>
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<h2><a name="Afternoon" id="Afternoon">Afternoon session -
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implementors</a></h2>
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<h3>Ray Ferguson - Protege (<a
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href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T14-51-13">14:51:13</a>)</h3>
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<p>@@presentation materials?</p>
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<p><strong>ACTION IanH</strong>: explain how to say "range of P is A union B"
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in owl lite (15:07:55)</p>
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<h3>Bijan from Mindswap (<a
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href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T15-14-53">15:14:53</a>)</h3>
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<ul>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Jan/0026.html">Slides
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from MIND lab presentation at WOWG f2f</a>Jim Hendler (Thu, Jan 09
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2003)</li>
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</ul>
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<h3>Network Inference - Sean B. (<a
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href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T15-30-27">15:30:27</a>)</h3>
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<p>@@presentation materials?</p>
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<h3>Jan from SWI Prolog (<a
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href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T16-02-22">16:02:22</a>)</h3>
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<p>@@presentation materials?</p>
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<h3>Raphael Volz (<a
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href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T16-24-02">16:24:02</a>)</h3>
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<p>@@presentation materials</p>
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<h3>Jeff Heflin (<a href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T16-36-18">16:36:18</a>)</h3>
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<p>@@presentation materials</p>
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<h3>Jos De Roo (<a href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T16-42-12">16:42:12</a>)</h3>
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<ul>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Jan/att-0028/01-all.htm">OWL
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implementation experience in Euler</a></li>
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</ul>
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<p><em>in which Jos was nominated for the 2nd owl.owl award for demonstrating
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running code passing (all?) our tests.</em></p>
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<h3>Mike Dean (<a href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T16-55-02">16:55:02</a>)</h3>
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<p>@@presentation materials</p>
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<h3>Dan Connolly (<a
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href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T17-21-40">17:21:40</a>)</h3>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="/2000/10/swap/pim/travel.html">Semantic Web Travel Tools</a>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="/Talks/2002/10/09-swcal/all.htm">presentation</a> given
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Oct in Bristol</li>
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</ul>
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</li>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Jan/0024.html">cwm/otter
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axiom tests</a></li>
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</ul>
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<h2><a name="L2656" id="L2656">Editor's Break-out: debrief</a></h2>
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<p><em>also:</em><a href="/2003/01/09-webont-irc#T17-29-33"><em>IRC notes
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17:29:33</em></a></p>
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<p>Chris Welty reports back from break out group; see</p>
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<ul>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0159.html">editor's
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break-out</a>
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<p>and</p>
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</li>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0176.html">Editors:
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consistent use of terms in webont docs</a></li>
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</ul>
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<p>We adjourned for the day at 17:39:16, and headed to the pub...</p>
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<h2><a name="L2689" id="L2689">W3C end-game Process</a></h2>
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<p><em>irc</em><a href="2003-01-10.html#T09-20-33"><em>notes
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[09:20:33]</em></a><em>by pfps</em></p>
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<p>Connolly explains <a
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href="/Consortium/Process-20010719/tr.html#last-call">W3C last call
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process</a>, associated risks, and an <a
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href="/XML/2002/12/LC-xml-names11-doc">exemplary last call review summary</a>
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(aka disposition of comments), how to request CR/PR, and other collected
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wisdom from the <a href="/Guide/">Art of Consensus</a> guidebook.</p>
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<h2><a name="Test" id="Test">Implementation Experience, Conformance</a></h2>
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<p><em>see</em><a href="2003-01-10.html#T10-27-20"><em>irc notes starting
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10:27:20</em></a></p>
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<p>Hendler reviews technical relationships between Lite, DL, and Full, test
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methodology, and the difference between defining/checking conformance and
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demonstrating implementation experience.</p>
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<p>The WG discussed the costs and benefits of specifying conformance of
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classes of software in addition to the (unanimously supported) specification
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of classes of documents.</p>
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<p>12:01:19</p>
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<p><strong>RESOLVED</strong>: add a test document section for Syntax checker
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that can tell the difference between OWL sublanguages<br />
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Abstain: Connoly, Hendler <br />
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<strong>ACTION Carroll</strong>: to add a test for syntax checker<br />
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<strong>ACTION Patel-Schneider</strong>: add definition of OWL Lite
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document</p>
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<p>12:09:44</p>
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<p><strong>RESOLVED</strong>: The test document should specify the
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conformance clauses for OWL Lite, DL, and FULL documents</p>
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<p>[13:58:13]</p>
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<p><strong>RESOLVED</strong>: that the OWL test document shall specify
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conformance of consistency checkers {Lite, DL, Full} x {Incomplete,
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Complete}. Complete is to be understood as "Logically complete". DeRoo,
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Hendler, Connolly, De Roure Abstaining,<br />
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<strong>Action</strong>: De Roo</p>
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<h2><a name="Closure" id="Closure">Closure on Requirements</a></h2>
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<p><a href="2003-01-10.html#T14-02-49"><em>irc notes starting
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14:02:49</em></a></p>
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<p>discussion of</p>
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<ul>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Dec/0300.html">Action:
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Review of satisfaction of requirements</a> Jeff Heflin (Mon, Dec 30
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2002)</li>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0055.html">F2F
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Version of Requirements Document</a> Jeff Heflin (Thu, Jan 02 2003)</li>
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</ul>
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<p>[14:11:31] <strong>RESOLVED</strong>: Req Doc to be included in last call
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(i.e. Recommendation track); abstains IanH, Patel-Schneider<br />
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<strong>ACTION Schrieber</strong>: to get it into road map</p>
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<p><strong>ACTION Hefflin</strong>: update terminology (e.g. object) in
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requirements document</p>
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<p><strong>RESOLVED</strong>: to publish Requirements as a WD, subject to
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editorial discretion.<br />
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<strong>ACTION Heflin</strong>.</p>
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<p><strong>ACTION Connolly</strong>: figure out privacy, security risks /
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issues in spec</p>
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<h2><a name="Test1" id="Test1">Test Document Review</a></h2>
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<p><a href="2003-01-10.html#T14-20-16"><em>irc notes starting
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14:20:16</em></a></p>
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<p>discussion of</p>
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<ul>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0136.html">TEST:
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document issues for f2f</a></li>
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</ul>
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<p><strong>ACTION Caroll</strong>: teach sean bechhofer, peter crowber
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editing/creating tests</p>
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<p><strong>Action De Roo</strong>: Put examples from guide into test suite
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(<a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0216.html">done
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14Jan</a>)</p>
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<h2><a name="AllDiffere" id="AllDiffere">AllDifferent</a></h2>
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<p><a href="2003-01-10.html#T15-18-10"><em>irc notes starting
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15:18:10</em></a></p>
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<p><strong>RESOLVED</strong>: to close the AllDifferent issue using an
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AllDifferent class and a distinctMembers property (to be elaborated by the
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semantics editors). Connolly, Carroll, Bechhofer, Dale, Volz, Horan
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abstaining.<br />
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<strong>ACTION</strong> guide editor (Welty)<br />
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<strong>ACTION</strong> semantics editor (Patel-Schneider)<br />
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<strong>ACTION</strong> ref editor (Dean).</p>
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<p><br />
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<strong>ACTION Patel-Schneider</strong>: relay feedback on
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parseType="Collection"</p>
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<h2><a name="Schedule" id="Schedule">WG Schedule</a></h2>
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<p><em>see</em><a href="2003-01-10.html#T15-48-59"><em>irc notes starting
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15:48:59</em></a></p>
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<p>Discussion of</p>
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<ul>
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<li><a
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href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0142.html">Guide:
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New version</a> Smith, Michael K (Tue, Jan 07 2003)</li>
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</ul>
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<p><strong>RESOLVED</strong>: to publish Guide as last call, after edits as
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actioned in this ftf and editorial discretion, subject to review by Guus and
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Jeff H. Carroll, ter Horst abstaining<br />
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<strong>ACTION Welty</strong>: provide guide last call candidate by 15Jan<br
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/>
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<strong>ACTION Schreiber</strong>: to review by 21Jan<br />
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<strong>ACTION Heflin</strong>: to review Guide by 21Jan<br />
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<strong>ACTION Connolly</strong>: to publish Guide, after Welty/Guus/Hefflin
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do their part of Guide.</p>
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<p>Discussion of taking Abstract Syntax and Semantics to last call exposed
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outstanding technical issues.</p>
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<p><strong>ACTION Carroll</strong>: investigate this issue (rdfs:Literal
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etc.) in RDFCore<br />
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<strong>ACTION JimH</strong>: ask SemWeb CG about RDF model theory.<br />
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<strong>ACTION Patel-Schneider</strong>: write to webont WG (only to webont
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WG) about the impact of this on OWL.</p>
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<p>Ongoing reviews of various sections of the semantics document were
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noted:</p>
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<p><strong>ACTION Carroll</strong>: review AS & S Section 4</p>
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<p><strong>ACTION Horrocks</strong>: review AS & S Appendices</p>
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<p>Also...</p>
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<p><strong>ACTION Patel-Schneider</strong>: keep Dave Beckett informed of
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status of his comments.</p>
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<p>Connolly explained the critical path:</p>
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<ol>
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<li>WG decides to go to last call (all issues are resolved)
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<p>some epsilon later...</p>
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</li>
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<li>LC publication
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<p>at least 3 weeks later...</p>
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</li>
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<li>WG requests PR
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<p>approx 2 weeks later</p>
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</li>
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<li>PR publication
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<p>exactly 4 weeks later</p>
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</li>
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<li>Membership reviewes due
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<p>approximately 2 weeks later...</p>
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</li>
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<li>Rec party and press release</li>
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</ol>
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<p>We discussed schedule details up thru last call publications...</p>
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<dl>
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<dt>10 Jan (Fri)</dt>
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<dd>today. Decide to take Guide, Requirements to last call.</dd>
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<dt>16 Jan (Thu)</dt>
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<dd>next telcon. Guide last call candidate available (ACTION Welty
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above).
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<p>test last call candidate hoped/planned.</p>
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</dd>
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<dt>17 Jan (Fri)</dt>
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<dd>RDF Core specs to last call [stay tuned to <a
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href="../RDFCore/#L473">RDFCore schedule</a>]</dd>
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<dt>23 Jan (Thu)</dt>
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<dd>Guide reviews due 21 Jan (ACTION Guus, Heflin above). Guide is
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published, contingent on successful review.
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<p>Semantics reviews due (<strong>ACTION ter Horst, Pan</strong>)
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Decide to take Semantics to last call.</p>
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<p>Ref last call candidate due 20 Jan.</p>
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<p>Overview (nee Feature Synopsis) draft hoped for by 20Jan</p>
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</dd>
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<dt>30 Jan (Thu)</dt>
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<dd>Overview reviews due (<strong>ACTION Welty, Horan</strong>).
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<p>Ref reviews due (<strong>ACTION Volz, Carrol/HP,
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Hendler</strong>)</p>
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<p>test reviews due (<strong>ACTION Connolly, Stanton</strong>)</p>
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</dd>
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<dt>Connolly observed that this schedule implies we continue to meet (i.e.
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have telcons) past 31 Mar 2003.</dt>
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<dt>Connolly reviewed tentative plans for a <a
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href="../meetings/tech-200303/">Semantic Web Architecture Meeting</a> 6-7
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March 2003 in Cambridge, as part of the W3C technical plenary.</dt>
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<h2>Adjournment</h2>
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<p><strong>RESOLVED</strong>: to thank the hosts, with applause.</p>
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