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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
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<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
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<h2>24 Feb 2010</h2>
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<p><a href=
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'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Feb/0072.html'>
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Agenda</a></p>
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<p>See also: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
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<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dt>Present</dt>
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<dd>yves, michael, davy, erik, silvia</dd>
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<dt>Regrets</dt>
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<dd>raphael</dd>
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<dt>Chair</dt>
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<dd>erik</dd>
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<dt>Scribe</dt>
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<dd>erik, davy</dd>
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<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
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<li><a href="#item01">Admin</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item02">3. SPECIFICATION:</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item03">4. TEST CASES</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item04">3.1 Media Fragment URI
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syntax</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 24 February
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2010</p>
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<h3 id="item01">Admin</h3>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> scribenick: erik</p>
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<p class='phone'>Accept the minutes at <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/17-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/17-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'>+1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> scribenick: davy</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> charter extension:
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everything fine, but milestones need to be adjusted</p><a name=
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"action01" id="action01"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> raphael to adjust the milestones in
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the charter [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
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find user - raphael</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ah, thanks :-)</p>
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<h3 id="item02">3. SPECIFICATION:</h3><a name="action02" id=
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"action02"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> troncy to adjust the milestones in the
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charter [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-145
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- Adjust the milestones in the charter [on Raphaël Troncy - due
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2010-03-03].</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ... actually on the
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group front page since we cannot change the charter, but the
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charter refers to the group home page for the changes</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> action-143?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-143 --
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Silvia Pfeiffer to move 5.1.5 into a new section -- due
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2010-02-24 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/143">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/143</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> action-144?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-144 --
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Silvia Pfeiffer to move the section 5.1.1 to the top -- due
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2010-02-24 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/144">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/144</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> not done yet</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> neither that one</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I promised it for
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F2F</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> ok, actions still
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going on</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> status about changes in the
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header syntax?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> made modifications in the
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wiki regarding philip's remarks<br />
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... only do it in the spec if we switch back to ABNF</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> I'm fine with either ABNF
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or EBNF</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> I have tools for ABNF
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only</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> no reason why we switched
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to EBNF, I don't see an advantage to use EBNF</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I don't mind either
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- if you prefer to switch back to ABNF, go for it</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I think Philip found
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it easier to write, but that doesn't have to influence everyone
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else</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> if Yves prefers ABNF, then
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I also prefer ABNF</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> will continue in ABNF<br />
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... also create a section where all the ABNF is located
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together<br />
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... having a single view of the grammar</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> propose to use ABNF to
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represent the grammar</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> PROPOSAL:
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dtddadada??? Ok, +1 :-)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> I know...</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>PROPOSAL:</cite> use ABNF to represent
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the grammar, because of the existence of tools</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'>+1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: ABNF
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will be used to represent the grammar</strong></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> a-126 is still
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ongoing<br />
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... should be able to do it today</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> while you're at it,
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can you look at writing ABNF for the HTTP headers, too?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> yep</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> that's the plan</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> a-135 is still ongoing</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> a-137 is also ongoing</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> see note in 5.2.2
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and 5.2.3</p>
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<p class='phone'>issue-5?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ISSUE-5 --
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Handling spatial cropping requires information at client-side
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-- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/5">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/5</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> we must asap reach LC<br />
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... if this is only with the temporal dimension, so be it</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> silvia, can you
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re-raise in AOB?</p>
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<h3 id="item03">4. TEST CASES</h3>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> ACTION-118?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-118 --
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Michael Hausenblas to come up with individual 'normal' test
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cases (+/- 20) -- due 2009-10-07 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/118">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/118</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> I second silvia
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question, re: quotes in the syntax</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Silvia, please,
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write your comments not in /me</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> re: ABNF - are we
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dropping the quotes on the fragment values?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> just FYI - the "s"
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in npt dimension has already been dropped in spec</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> silvia, we first
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continue with 4, then get to 3.5</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>michael:</cite> a-118 continues untill
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next week</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> ACTION-108?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-108 --
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Michael Hausenblas to add the missing test cases in corrib --
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due 2009-11-16 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/108">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/108</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> close
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ACTION-108</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-108 Add the
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missing test cases in corrib closed</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> <a href=
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"http://ld2sd.deri.org/corrib/">http://ld2sd.deri.org/corrib/</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> <a href=
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"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Feb/0019.html">
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Feb/0019.html</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>michael:</cite> we can review them one
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by one</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> indeed - I was going
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to ask if people had had the time to check out those test cases
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for the time dimension</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> are the test cases already
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in a state that we can see that all the boundary cases can be
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seen</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> can we focus on time
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dimension for now and check there that we have all the boundary
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cases?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> michael: focus is on
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temporal dimension only</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>michael:</cite> not totally sure, there
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might be at least a couple of test cases that are not yet
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covered</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> I will look at it</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> in my list I
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abstracted away from concrete values into t=a,b</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> then I looked at the
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values that a and b can take compared to each other and
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compared to start, end of file</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> in this way, I tried
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capturing all the possibilities</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> these are all no
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errors:</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> * Non-errors:
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b>=a</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b -> 200: set
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playback to a-b</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a, -> 200: set
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playback to a-end</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=,b -> 200: set
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playback to start-b</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b with a=b ->
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200: set playback to a</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b with
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a<start -> 200: set playback to start-b</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b with a>end
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-> 200: set playback to end</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b with b>end
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-> 200: set playback to a-end</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b with
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b<start -> 200: set playback to start</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>michael:</cite> in the F2F, we should
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make a final decision regarding the test cases of temporal
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fragments</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> I missed b > end</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> Michael: will
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add t=a,b with b>end and t=a,b with b<start</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> also miss b<a</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> silvia, both</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> it's in the list
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above</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> we're looking
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at corrib ATM, but jackjansen referred to in general</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> b>end is, the
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other is in an error list</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> * non-existent</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> example: t=b,a with
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b>a (e.g. t=20,10)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> -> 200: ignore
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fragment</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>michael:</cite> it's easy to add/edit
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test cases in corrib<br />
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... everyone can do it</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> and I also have this
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one that we haven't had before:</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> * Validity errors:
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value cannot be parsed for dimension</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> example: t=asdf</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> -> 200: ignore
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fragment (retrieve full resource, but with this adapted
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URL)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> note: browsers
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already do this</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> further, I think we
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need to change TC0002</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> * TC0002: empty time
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segment - npt (see also above)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> examples: t=0,0 ;
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t=3,3</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> -> 200: retrieve
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whatever the browser needs to set up playback and</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> set the playback
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position to the offset</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> NOTE: this is
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different to what we currently have at</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> silivia, you're
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aware of that you can edit TC in corrib yourself?</p><a name=
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"action03" id="action03"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jack to identify and add in corrib any
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- Identify and add in corrib any missing test cases for
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temporal fragments [on Jack Jansen - due 2010-03-03].</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I thought we are
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> the reason for my
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> silvia, I'll
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change the ownership re TC10-17 to you soon</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> michael: 'contributor'
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= 'one who raised the TC'</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> hmm, according to
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they are multi dimensional - wasn't really focused on that
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yet</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>
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- Add all MF WG members to corrib [on Michael Hausenblas - due
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2010-03-03].</p><a name="action05" id="action05"></a>
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2010-03-03].</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>>
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Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-03-03].</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> if we change the syntax,
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then someone needs to be responsible to modify the related test
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cases</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> Michael: there
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is also an issue tracker for corrib in case you find a bug or
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want to request a feature</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> ... <a href=
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"http://bitbucket.org/mhausenblas/corrib/issues/?status=new&status=open">
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http://bitbucket.org/mhausenblas/corrib/issues/?status=new&status=open</a></p>
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<h3 id="item04">3.1 Media Fragment URI syntax</h3>
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<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> do we keep the quotes
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around track names and ids?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> p</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> also see: <a href=
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"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ublic-media-fragment/2010Feb/0071.html">
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ublic-media-fragment/2010Feb/0071.html</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> percent escapes of ? and
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& seems to work in the browser<br />
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... which indicates that we do need quotes (on condition that
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we have percent escaping)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> ... reinvestigation is
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still needed!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> which philip
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introduced into the spec</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> oh!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> jack: syntax of ? and
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# should be the same</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> we should first investigate
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how percent encoding works</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> jack: what about
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client vs serverside ... should be the same at both sides</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> <a href=
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"http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.1">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.1</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> and <a href=
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"http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.4">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.4</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> before doing
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percent-encoding, the url is split up</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> If I compare
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section 2.1 to what I posted to the mailing list then it seems
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the behaviousr I saw is wrong.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> yves: URI-syntax is
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not clear on what should be returned on client or server ....
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therefore no ambiguity if we use quotes</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> 2.4 states that
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even more clearly</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> according to
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent-encoding">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent-encoding</a>,
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last section, only the names and values of a CGI query are
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encoded</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> quotes remove ambiguity</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> so youtube is not compliant
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to RFC3986?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> This works:
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<a href=
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"http://www.youtube.com/watch%3fv=FwJduPtCvSM%26feature=rec-r2-2r-1-HM">
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http://www.youtube.com/watch%3fv=FwJduPtCvSM%26feature=rec-r2-2r-1-HM</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> and it
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shouldn't</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> my friend re
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URIs is <a href=
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"http://www.websitedev.de/temp/rfc3986-check.html.gz">http://www.websitedev.de/temp/rfc3986-check.html.gz</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> So, it seems
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that rfc3986 isn't followed by at least one major site</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> lets you check
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stuff quite nicely</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I think the "Under
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normal circumstances" part is important</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> ref?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I think in essence
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rfc3986 lets every server do what it wants</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> got it</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> link above -
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<a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.4">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.4</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> but it suggests
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parsing before percent encoding</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> to make it easier
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for the server to determine the components</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> doesn't stop a
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server from trying to interpret a url that has more than just
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the components url encoded</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I think we can
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safely prescribe url encoding the way Philip has currently done
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it and it follows section 2.4</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> I am not sure I
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agree. I am not convinced that we can remove the quotes for
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queries.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> that is a different
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matter altoghether, I think</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> what problem do the
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quotes solve?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> escaping
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ampersands</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> eric??</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I seem to remember
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having had a problem where the quotes introduced more confusion
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than helped, but cannot now find it</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> anyway, I guess
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we're out of time :)</p><a name="action07" id="action07"></a>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to summarize the discussion on
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
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wiki [on Erik Mannens - due 2010-03-03].</p>
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<p class='phone'>[adjourned]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> bye!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> thanks everyone!</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> btw: we're only
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talking about quotes for track and id dimensions, right?</p>
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<p class='phone'>yup</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> davy: is your
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implementation using quotes?</p>
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<p class='phone'>yes</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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the discussion on the quotes in a mail or on the wiki [recorded
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jack to identify
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> mhausenb to add a
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copy TC functionality [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> mhausenb to add
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all MF WG members to corrib [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
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up with a fix for overview vs. edit single TC [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> raphael to adjust
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the milestones in the charter [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> troncy to adjust
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the milestones in the charter [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
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