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<h1>Social Web Incubator Group Teleconference</h1>
<h2>23 Sep 2009</h2>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>pchampin, +1.314.683.aabb, mauro, Phil_Archer, bblfish,
cperey, DKA, mauro.a, mischat_(muted), karl, AlexPassant</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>hhalpin</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>Karl Dubost</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">"Convene SWXG WG meeting of
2009-09-16T13:00-15:00Z"</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">Intro</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">"General Organization and Task
Forces"</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">Telcon time</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">"Invited Guest Invitations"</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">"User Stories"</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">"Invited Guest - Ros Lawler of Random
House"</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; what is the
conference name "swxg" ?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; zakim isn't picking
up the phone numbers</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; dialing in</p>
<p class='phone'>trackbot, start telcon</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Date: 23 September
2009</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>rreck</cite>&gt; i dont see conference
entry messages</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; hi</p>
<h3 id="item01">"Convene SWXG WG meeting of
2009-09-16T13:00-15:00Z"</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>AlexPassant</cite>&gt; have you just
joined as well hhalpin ?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; scribe: Karl
Dubost</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; PROPOSED: to
approve SWXG WG Weekly -- 16th September 2009 (only text IRC
notes!) as a true record.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>rreck</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; APPROVED: SWXG WG
Weekly -- 16th September 2009 as a true record.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; hehe</p><a name=
"action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> hhalpin needs
to convert previous minutes into HTML via some scripting
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item02">Intro</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Meet again next
Sept 30th.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> we should get
Saint-Andre for XMPP</p>
<h3 id="item03">"General Organization and Task Forces"</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Include the open
day work..</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> We are on a track …<br />
... 200 people for the venue<br />
... It will be like a barcamp event<br />
... we will have opportunity to learn about social
networking<br />
... and @@blabla<br />
... christine proposed an agenda</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Planning_for_TPAC_Open_Day">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Planning_for_TPAC_Open_Day</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> we need to add some
sessions<br />
... w3c wishes we are using channels of w3c for
communicating?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; so the name of the
wiki page needs to be modified!</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; henry?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> there will be cakes</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; You had me at
"cakes."</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> there will be a
cantine<br />
... (kind of restaurant)</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; so we need a
registration system. Who has one of those?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; for registration
I'd use eventbrite.com</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> We need to have a place
where people can sign-up</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; seems to work
well.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; exactly, we need a
web page</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> barcamp alike</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; what about speaker
invites?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; can we brainstorm
some speaker names?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; on wiki or on the
call?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; not choppy here</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; agreed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; can you please
propose a day/time?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Planning_for_TPAC_Open_Day">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/Planning_for_TPAC_Open_Day</a>
&lt;--at the bottom of the page is a place for invites</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; "before the
call"</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> We could meet before the
call next week</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> If people could attend
identity workshop</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-socialweb/2009Sep/0050.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-socialweb/2009Sep/0050.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; Suggest a tag line for
the event "Advancing the Cause of the Social Web."</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.internetidentityworkshop.com/">http://www.internetidentityworkshop.com/</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; I should be
there</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> Most of the good
speakers will be at the identity workshop.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://iiw9.eventbrite.com/">http://iiw9.eventbrite.com/</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; barcamp uses it
too</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA2</cite>&gt; I've used Eventbrite
- seems good</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> I will be there<br />
... should we start something for the open social web day<br />
... It would be good if people could attend.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Thursday on
TPAC</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> We will have two days at
the TPAC but it's kind possible to attend both</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Open Developer
Day</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> On TPAC, there will be
also the Open Developer Day.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; We are also looking
for one or two speakers to talk about Social Web to the people
at the developer day.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> We are also looking for
one or two speakers to speak about Social web things at the
Open Developer Day.<br />
... Please register asap</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-socialweb/2009Sep/0051.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-socialweb/2009Sep/0051.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> there is a suggestion to
change the telcon time</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; 6:00 AM in
California</p>
<h3 id="item04">Telcon time</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>UNKNOWN_SPEAKER:</cite> it is a bit
early on the west coast</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; If we kept the same
day but moved the call back 2 hours.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>MacTed</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>UNKNOWN_SPEAKER:</cite> How many people
would be ok if we keep the same day</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>AlexPassant</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>oshani</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tinkster</cite>&gt; 2 hours would be
fine for me.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>melvster</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; two hours</p>
<p class='phone'>but two hours.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; +1 I would be fine.</p>
<p class='phone'>-1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='phone'>-1 (work reasons)</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Adam</cite>&gt; what about just an
hour later?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tinkster</cite>&gt; bear in mind that
daylight savings is coming up soon.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; yes, that messes
things up</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>karl:</cite> I will not be able to move
my time because of my work in a Web agency</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Make it 2 hours
LATER</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>karl:</cite> that's fine though. change
the time</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; So 15:00UTC</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Karl - can you do 2
hours later?</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: Telconf
is moved at 15:00 UTC</strong></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; (was there a
resolution already?)</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Let's not change it
quite yet</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Let me run this by
some of the people in San Fran</p>
<p class='phone'>:) resolution might be changed ;)</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; They actually
trying to participate.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; it would be slightly
easier to change it after we are all aligned</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; after change of
daylight savings</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>melvster</cite>&gt; california has
daylight saving too, normally its 1-2 weeks within the european
change</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Dan:</cite> it's not sure we will get
more participants by moving the time</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA2</cite>&gt; I have tried
changing times of calls to suit different people before now -
and in that case the people we changed to accommodate - didn't
ever show up :-(</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; I agree, 8 is limit
9am would be something</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> somepeople asked<br />
... so we could try</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin to get back to people on
possible telecon time to change to 15:00 UTC. [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-89
- Get back to people on possible telecon time to change to
15:00 UTC. [on Harry Halpin - due 2009-09-30].</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> just asking for now</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; +q</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; how does daylight
saving time change things</p><a name="action03" id=
"action03"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> cperey to
start a wiki page about the open day session at TPAC [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p><a name="action04"
id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> DKA to
double-check on TPAC, make sure SWXG is booked. [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p><a name="action05"
id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> DKA to
summarize OSLO and geoLocation conversation in order to spread
knowledge of these efforts among W3C members. [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p><a name="action06"
id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> Mischa to
describe/implement a report of terms and conditions, and how
they change between now and the end of the XG. [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; hhalpin: am aware
of my action, will get on it</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; We definitely
should wait till we are on the spread.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> we could wait until
everyone is on the same timezone<br />
... for avoiding the mess of time change</p><a name="action07"
id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> Melvster to
write up David Raggett's guest talk on context, delegated
privacy providers, and so on. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?low=8">http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?low=8</a></p>
<h3 id="item05">"Invited Guest Invitations"</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tinkster</cite>&gt; e.g. Sydney is
UTC+10, but in practice is either 9 hours or 11 hours ahead of
London because of non-overlapping daylight savings.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> what should we do for
upcoming guest speakers?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt;
www.globallockbox.com</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> they don't do privacy
policy per se</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Nov or October?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; so long as they're
talkign about general issues, trends etc., and their approach
in broad brush, seems great</p><a name="action08" id=
"action08"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> danbri to
find someone from Opera to talk Widgets [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> Is what they do is
relevant to social networks?</p><a name="action09" id=
"action09"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> danbri and
karl to contact Evan of identi.ca over OpenMicroblogging and
W3C. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> they do a lot of
things</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; rather than on
detail of the patented works, which i think we wouldn't want to
hear about</p><a name="action10" id="action10"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> Renato and
DanBri and hhalpin to schedule DataPortability.org/XMPP
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> they are in
California,</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; i would like to try
and invite someone from the BBC to talk about how they used
twitter to report news on this last iranian elections, post
having all of their reporter being chucked out</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> so they will be happy if
we change the time.</p><a name="action11" id="action11"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> cperey to book global lockbox as an
invited speaker [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-90
- Book global lockbox as an invited speaker [on Christine Perey
- due 2009-09-30].</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; i will start
mailing people and i will mail the list</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tinkster</cite>&gt; yes</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; yes</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>mischat:</cite> On the guardian, they
had an interview<br />
... about how bbc tracked the iranian elections through
twitter</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; that would be great,
+1 from me</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>melvster</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tinkster</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>mischat:</cite> would people be happy to
hear that.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; sounds interstig,
particulary re provenance use case danbri brought up
earlier</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; provenance and
retweet api discussions continue in the statusnet list</p>
<h3 id="item06">"User Stories"</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; anyone from
OpenSocial?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cperey</cite>&gt; I've touched bases
with David Glazer</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://lists.status.net/pipermail/statusnet-dev/2009-September/002344.html">
http://lists.status.net/pipermail/statusnet-dev/2009-September/002344.html</a>
- statusnet / retweet thread</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> bblfish do you have any
updates?</p><a name="action12" id="action12"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> adam to
write up the boeing use case for enterprise social networks
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action12</a>]</p><a name="action13"
id="action13"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> rreck to
flesh out anonymous usecase connecting to multiple identies and
null provenance [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action13</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> I will be meeting with
someone in Paris here</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; When you meet up
with Tim ping me</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; And I can walk you
and Tim through the W3C CVS editing process</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; and we can
hopefully get Oshani on the week.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Oshani on the call
- and Karl also would know all of this!!</p><a name="action14"
id="action14"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> Oshani to
merge document takedown with time-related takedown "forget this
in ten years" and more general concept of data removal.
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action14</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> I would like to have a
document to be easier to read.</p><a name="action15" id=
"action15"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> oshani to
reframe the geolocation/intent/portability [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action15">
http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action15</a>]</p><a name="action16"
id="action16"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> oshani to
flesh out "Intransitivity of Policies Applied to Social Network
Data" [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action16</a>]</p><a name="action17"
id="action17"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> bblfish
to relabel data protection use case to be about controlled
access and takedown to data "about" you [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action17">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action17</a>]</p><a name="action18"
id="action18"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> bblfish
to merge Family and Group access usecases [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action18">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action18</a>]</p><a name="action19"
id="action19"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> caribou
to flesh out Data Protection use-case specifying user vs.
purpose, cite their work in PrimeLife [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action19">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action19</a>]</p><a name="action20"
id="action20"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> hhalpin
explain to henry and oshani doc editing process for usecases
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action20">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action20</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item07">"Invited Guest - Ros Lawler of Random
House"</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>oshani</cite>&gt; 2 of my actions are
done: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Document_Takedowns">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Document_Takedowns</a>
and <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Intransitivity_of_Policies_Applied_to_Social_Network_Data">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Intransitivity_of_Policies_Applied_to_Social_Network_Data</a></p><a name="action21"
id="action21"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> oshani to
flesh out "Intransitivity of Policies Applied to Social Network
Data" [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action21">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action21</a>]</p><a name="action22"
id="action22"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> Oshani to
merge document takedown with time-related takedown "forget this
in ten years" and more general concept of data removal.
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action22">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action22</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bbb:</cite> a lot of the user stories we
have are centered on individuals</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ros-lawler/7/327/b0b">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ros-lawler/7/327/b0b</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ros:</cite> we have experimented into
social networks</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Guest speaker: Ros
Lawler, random House</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ros:</cite> identifying fan and
interests group</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; uses social networks
to find fan groups</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; create fan groups</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ros:</cite> creating fan groups<br />
... the work of analysis is a lot easier</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.davegorman.com/">http://www.davegorman.com/</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Will try Karl</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; If there's no fan
gourp - how do we create one</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; terry Pratchet</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Need to understand
the community, like Terry Pratchett</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Approached Bebo to do
some promo work as taregting younger demographic</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Bebo more
creative</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Contatcted marketing
folk at Bebo - make it interesting nad we'll make it easy for
you</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; get folk on Bebo to
dress up as Dsicword characters</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Got list of over x
thousand friends - quick data captyre</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Facebook has lots of
activity. Some good some not</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Worked well - long
cookery list</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; "cooking the
books"</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Group called cooking
teh books - work within frameowrk of social network</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; We have author sites,
chick let sites etc</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; ROY - return on
invsetment</p>
<p class='phone'>social networks can be really time
consuming</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Can be time consuming
to run a new group - so need to make sure we're actually
getting sales</p>
<p class='phone'>direct sales are really poor in social
network</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Need to fine ways to
build data capture</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; E-mail gives us a
good ROI - use SNs to capture e-mail etc.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Good publicity
success on the back of SNs</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Still working on how
much time do you put in</p>
<p class='phone'>karl wonders if there are metrics for
measuring</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; balance of
effort/return</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ccc:</cite> one of the obsessive topic
is privacy</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ros:</cite> it has to be opt-in.<br />
... in terms of our privacy we don't have any</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Some of us did this
from our personal profiles - now moved into professional
area</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Now done in name of
author, or publishing house or imprint</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ccc:</cite> are there missing features
on twitter?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; PhilA: is there
things you'd like to see on Twitter and SNs?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ros:</cite> it is very time consuming,
we could a one login for all of them.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Ros: Don't think
there is a shortcut - wish there were one</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; "onr login to all
of them"</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ros:</cite> log in to all of them,
etc.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Lots of people here
being shown how to use Tweetdeck etc. IT teems say no to
download and install anything</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; so you have to work
from home :-)</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Everyone appreciates
the argument but it gets in the way.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; So there's a rpobelm
from a corporate point of view</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Zakim</cite>&gt; karl, you wanted to
ask if it is time consuming to contribute or to read</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>MacTed</cite>&gt; (trouble with
Twitter echoes to Facebook, LJ, etc., is -- how can I read my
Tweetstream *and* those others without endless
duplication/multiplication? Usenet is hard to reinvent!)</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; DKA: Vodafone is very
large and conservative - the culture change needed for
corporate networks to be available is big. It's still
happening, we're not there yet. But it does need to happen</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; .. it happens from
the PR organisation, not the IT team</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; .. the PR team get it
- the IT Crew may need more persuasion</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; DKA: Maybe there's
somthing to be said about Best pratice for large
orgnaisations</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; IT policies can be a
blocker to adoption</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Ros: We're also
discussing cost. We take up a lot of bandwidth looking at
facebook and so on - what is the legitimate use of the system.
Video increasingly improtant</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Karl: Is it time
consuming to read or to contribute?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Ros: Both take a lot
of time to do properly. It's about establishing a relationship.
Doing it meaningfully takes time</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; re "Best pratice for
large orgnaisations", ... interesting suggestion</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; i recall Habitat™
using Twitter to get advertising traffic, and was caught out
for trying to hijack #iranelections to sell their products
<a href=
"http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8116869.stm.">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8116869.stm.</a>
I wonder how bad that was for their reputation</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Karl: From my
experience it's a lot easier to track things when you're
organised. An aggregator can create dynamic lists, and
filtering. Contributing can take longer</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Ros: We're creating
content that we want to be able to distribute across multiple
sites - hence we've created out own widget that gives you free
access to some new books etc.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; .. gets more mass
reach through social objects and automated distribution</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Adam: We (boeing) did
a bench mark study about the culture - we had to not release
tech because the culture wasn't ready. Is this going to save me
time and money?</p>
<p class='phone'>culture is more important than technology.
Pushbacks are coming from the need to understand if it will be
beneficial to the company</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Culture more
improtant than tech</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Ros: When I joined 3
years ago digital literacy was very low. Now we've built it up
throughout the organisation</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; ack: bblfish</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>bblfish:</cite> how many social networks
you are following and contributing?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; bblfish: How many SNs
do you contribute to/follow and how many can you not join
because it's too much work</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Ros: we do have a lot
of marketeers across the company - probably 10 or so across the
group - and we go where the fans/readers are</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; .. yes, we're on
TWitter and FB because that's where the numbers are but then
we'll do more specialist things like, for example, LinkedIn for
launching Richard Branson's book</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Ros: from a user
point of view, there has tpo be a really big driver to sign up
for another SN, setting up a new account</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; thinking of
ning</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; agreed hhalpin</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; .. we'll see them set
up, say FB nad then go to Twitter, but there needs to be a
stroing interest to get them to move</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; harry: Ojne thing
we're interested in is standardisation - making it easier for
everyone</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; doh, skype-out
account ran dry...</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; .. all the things
I've been invited to are based on Ning and there are otehr
specialist sites - do you think some sort of distributed SN
standard would help or hurt businesses?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; re publisher
industry use of social nets, relatedly i heard that many
Myspace API efforts eg <a href=
"http://search.cpan.org/dist/WWW-Myspace/lib/WWW/Myspace.pm">http://search.cpan.org/dist/WWW-Myspace/lib/WWW/Myspace.pm</a>
are driven by needs of music publicists</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Ros: The publis that
we're trying to reach are quite sophisticted. If it's not as
good as facebook then it's not any good. It must do at least
that much.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; What we want is a mix
of personal pages and advertising - that's the ideal - for
us</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; W3C Widgets comes
to mind...</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; .. we have to make a
differnet version of our widget for different SNs</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; And of course
OpenSocial</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; ack: Mischa</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; mischa: I saw habitat
jumping on the #iranelections tag on twitter to get people to
go to their shops. Any otehr examples of other people doing it
wrong?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Ros: They had a lot
of bad PR. but the dust has settled. It did them damage but
it's gone and long term it's not really an issue</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; .. Moonfruit were in
the press a lot. twitter banned #moonfruit eventually</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; re w3c widgets
-meet- social networks, see <a href=
"http://incubator.apache.org/wookie/">http://incubator.apache.org/wookie/</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; They'r a white label
website provider. Just include #moonfruit in your tweet and get
a free xyz - and Twitter jumped in editorially for the first
time. Big discussion./</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; +q</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tinkster</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://mashable.com/2009/07/01/moonfruit-macbook/">http://mashable.com/2009/07/01/moonfruit-macbook/</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; agreed bblfish
!</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; bblfish: so that
raises the question of ownership?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; .. there's an editor
that can ban people from the network - in a distributed system
everyone wons their own stuff. Would that be seen as
valuable</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; (yes, this returns
to the licensing issues)</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>PhilA</cite>&gt; Ros: yes. Look at the
T&amp;Cs - Ning owns copyright on anythign you post - so we
can't post any of our book content because actually we own
that, not them!</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; good point</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; it would be
interesting not just to look at privacy policies but content
ownership</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mischat</cite>&gt; agreed hhalpin</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; thanks
ross!</p><a name="action23" id="action23"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Archer to write summary of Ros's talk
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action25">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action25</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-91
- Write summary of Ros's talk [on Phil Archer - due
2009-09-30].</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>melvster</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/InvitedGuestSummaries">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/InvitedGuestSummaries</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>hhalpin</cite>&gt; Adjourn
Meeting.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>bblfish</cite>&gt; we should do a
podcast of these meetings ;-)</p>
</div>
<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Archer to write
summary of Ros's talk [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action25">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action25</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> cperey to book
global lockbox as an invited speaker [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin to get
back to people on possible telecon time to change to 15:00 UTC.
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> PhilA to write
summary of Ros's talk [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action23">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action23</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> adam to write
up the boeing use case for enterprise social networks [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> bblfish to
merge Family and Group access usecases [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action18">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action18</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> bblfish to
relabel data protection use case to be about controlled access
and takedown to data "about" you [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action17">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action17</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> caribou to
flesh out Data Protection use-case specifying user vs. purpose,
cite their work in PrimeLife [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action19">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action19</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> danbri to
find someone from Opera to talk Widgets [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> DKA to
summarize OSLO and geoLocation conversation in order to spread
knowledge of these efforts among W3C members. [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin
explain to henry and oshani doc editing process for usecases
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action20">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action20</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Mischa to
describe/implement a report of terms and conditions, and how they
change between now and the end of the XG. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> oshani to
flesh out "Intransitivity of Policies Applied to Social Network
Data" [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action16</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oshani to
merge document takedown with time-related takedown "forget this
in ten years" and more general concept of data removal. [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action14</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> oshani to
reframe the geolocation/intent/portability [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action15">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action15</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> rreck to
flesh out anonymous usecase connecting to multiple identies and
null provenance [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action13</a>]<br />
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<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> cperey to start
a wiki page about the open day session at TPAC [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> danbri and karl
to contact Evan of identi.ca over OpenMicroblogging and W3C.
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> DKA to
double-check on TPAC, make sure SWXG is booked. [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin needs to
convert previous minutes into HTML via some scripting [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Melvster to
write up David Raggett's guest talk on context, delegated privacy
providers, and so on. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> oshani to flesh
out "Intransitivity of Policies Applied to Social Network Data"
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action21">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action21</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oshani to merge
document takedown with time-related takedown "forget this in ten
years" and more general concept of data removal. [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action22">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action22</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Renato and
DanBri and hhalpin to schedule DataPortability.org/XMPP [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-swxg-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
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