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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>W3C Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 15-03-2007, 16:00
UTC</h1>
<h2>15 Mar 2007</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0023.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Jeff_Pan, Tobias_B&uuml;rger, Suzanne_Little,
Zeljko_Obrenovic, Melliyal_Annamalai, Chris</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Raphael, Troncy, Vassilis_Tzouvaras, Oscar_Celma,
Thomas_Franz, Pasquale_Popolizio,
Christian_Halaschek-Wiener</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Jeff Pan</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>mhausenblas</dd>
</dl>
</div>
<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">1. ADMIN</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">3. Image Annotation on the Semantic
Web Deliverable (</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">4. Interoperability
Deliverable</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">4.1 Structure (Vassilis,
Jeff)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">4.2 Music Use case: (Oscar)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">4.3 News Use case: (Thierry, Chris,
Raphael)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">4.4 Photo Use case: (Susanne Boll,
Erik Mannens)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">4.5 Tagging Use case: (George,
Thomas, Raphael)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item09">4.6 Algorithm representation Use
case: (Massimo, Suzanne, Patrizia, Ovidio)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item10">4.7 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use
case: (Ioannis, Sofia)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item11">5. MPEG-7 Deliverable</a></li>
<li><a href="#item12">6. AOB</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; list</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chrisatsin</cite>&gt; test</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; hi Chris</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>alessio</cite>&gt; hi all</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; hi alessio</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chrisatsin</cite>&gt; hi all</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; ScribeNick:
mhausenblas</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chrisatsin</cite>&gt; chrisa is
chrisatsin</p>
<h3 id="item01">1. ADMIN</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION:
accepted minutes</strong></p>
<p class='phone'>Next telecon scheduled: 29 March 2007</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='phone'>Topic 2. LINKS Pages</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> We work on
it</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to maintain the Vocabularies
page See: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies">http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies</a>
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'>-- continue</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> -&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-vocabularies/">http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/XGR-vocabularies/</a>
stable voc</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Zeljko to maintain the Resources/Tools
page See: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tools_and_Resources">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tools_and_Resources</a>
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Zeljko:</cite> Need feedback from
XG<br />
... we are after DOAP files<br />
... thinking about contacting authors of tools</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> Align with -&gt;
<a href="http://esw.w3.org/topic/SemanticWebTools">http://esw.w3.org/topic/SemanticWebTools</a>
ESW SW Tools<br />
... <a href=
"http://esw.w3.org/topic/ConverterToRdf">http://esw.w3.org/topic/ConverterToRdf</a></p><a name="action03"
id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Raphael to give feedback on
how to improve the Tools Page [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p><a name="action04" id=
"action04"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Zeljko to provide for biltieral links
ESW/ XG [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item02">3. Image Annotation on the Semantic Web
Deliverable (</h3><a name="action05" id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael addresses the comments on
"Image Annotation on the Semantic Web document" by next telecon
change the css style (XG report) change the syntax of the
examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz) [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item03">4. Interoperability Deliverable</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Semantic_Interoperability">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Semantic_Interoperability</a></p>
<h3 id="item04">4.1 Structure (Vassilis, Jeff)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> shorten TOC depth<br />
... all references should link to the Voc page / XGR</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> First section is about i15y
issues in general<br />
... my question is regarding that some annotations are not
representable in RDF (from F2F/ Susanne Boll)<br />
... further UC and possible solutions are described<br />
... using different layers of i15y</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>SuzanneLittle</cite>&gt; queue</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> in the Common Framework</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>SuzanneLittle</cite>&gt; yes
thanks!</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>SuzanneLittle</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0001.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0001.html</a></p><a name="action06"
id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff to asks Susanne Boll about
"selectors on top of resources" [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Tobias:</cite> Regarding XMP granularity
... might be what she meant<br />
... spatial regions in e.g. images</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> Back to section 3.1<br />
... 3.2 seems ok<br />
... 3.3 is more difficult to resolve, though<br />
... As Oscar mentioned in his mail to the list, we not going to
do key research, here<br />
... Will take a closer look at the UC</p>
<h3 id="item05">4.2 Music Use case: (Oscar)</h3><a name=
"action07" id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to update a possible scenario
with classical music (thanks to Ivan Herman) [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p><a name="action08" id=
"action08"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to update the UC and the interop
deliverable [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item06">4.3 News Use case: (Thierry, Chris,
Raphael)</h3><a name="action09" id="action09"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Chris, Thierry and Raphael to update
the UC and the interop deliverable [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item07">4.4 Photo Use case: (Susanne Boll, Erik
Mannens)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> Currently converting DIG35
to OWL</p><a name="action10" id="action10"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to contact DIG35 to see any
licensing problems if we do some conversions [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action13</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> Waiting for response
...</p><a name="action11" id="action11"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to do the conversion from DIG35
to OWL/RDF [recorded in <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> Some more blocks of DIG35
we work on ...<br />
... only XML schema was available as input</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Tobias:</cite> Q regarding
transformation?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Chris:</cite> Semi-automatically</p>
<h3 id="item08">4.5 Tagging Use case: (George, Thomas,
Raphael)</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; postponed</p>
<h3 id="item09">4.6 Algorithm representation Use case:
(Massimo, Suzanne, Patrizia, Ovidio)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Suzanne:</cite> Looking at hte lowest
i15y level<br />
... to enable easy integration and exploitation<br />
... general comment: distinguish intregration intra-layer vs.
between layers<br />
... we are after intra-layer integration (in contrast to SM
retrieval UC)</p><a name="action12" id="action12"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Vassilis to review algorithm
representation UC till next AC [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action19">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action19</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p><a name="action13" id=
"action13"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to contact Massimo to ask for
next steps [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> I sent out my comments on
UC<br />
... are the UC and the bits in the Framework in sync?<br />
... Vassilis works on this as well<br />
... some discussion would be of help to add something here</p>
<h3 id="item10">4.7 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use case:
(Ioannis, Sofia)</h3>
<p class='phone'>zakim P13 is Ioannis</p><a name="action14" id=
"action14"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to review the Multimedia
Retrieval use case by 08/03/2007 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action17">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action17</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p><a name="action15" id=
"action15"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Susanne Little to review the
Multimedia Retrieval use case by 08/03/2007 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action16</a>]
<strong>[DONE]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item11">5. MPEG-7 Deliverable</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> Next telecon a first
version should be available</p><a name="action16" id=
"action16"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar, Stamatia, Raphael, Suzanne,
Chrisa, Michael to have MPEG-7 deliverable ready for review by
next telecon [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action20">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action20</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item12">6. AOB</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> Future of the XG</p>
<p class='phone'>--&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#item13">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#item13</a>
first discussion</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> Workshop TBD<br />
... options XG, WG, IG</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Zakim</cite>&gt; mhausenblas, you
wanted to ask if the remaining time (&lt; 2 months) are
sufficient for this ... and to propose a formal vote on it</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Melli</cite>&gt; I like the proposed
plan</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik_Chris_Gaetan:</cite> We have a
contact to IEEE<br />
... so potential IE could chime in</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> W3C would like to see new
partners (from industry) to join as well</p>
</div>
<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff to asks
Susanne Boll about "selectors on top of resources" [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to
maintain the Vocabularies page See: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies">http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies</a>
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Zeljko to provide
for biltieral links ESW/ XG [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Chris,
Thierry and Raphael to update the UC and the interop deliverable
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to
contact DIG35 to see any licensing problems if we do some
conversions [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action13</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to do
the conversion from DIG35 to OWL/RDF [recorded in [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and
Raphael to give feedback on how to improve the Tools Page
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and
Vassilis to review algorithm representation UC till next AC
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action19">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action19</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to
update a possible scenario with classical music (thanks to Ivan
Herman) [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to
update the UC and the interop deliverable [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar,
Stamatia, Raphael, Suzanne, Chrisa, Michael to have MPEG-7
deliverable ready for review by next telecon [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action20">
http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action20</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael
addresses the comments on "Image Annotation on the Semantic Web
document" by next telecon change the css style (XG report) change
the syntax of the examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz) [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to
contact Massimo to ask for next steps [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to
review the Multimedia Retrieval use case by 08/03/2007 [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action17">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action17</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Zeljko to
maintain the Resources/Tools page See: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tools_and_Resources">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tools_and_Resources</a>
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Susanne Little
to review the Multimedia Retrieval use case by 08/03/2007
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action16</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
[End of minutes]<br />
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Inferring Scribes: mhausenblas
Present: Jeff_Pan Tobias_B&uuml;rger Suzanne_Little Zeljko_Obrenovic Melliyal_Annamalai Chris
Regrets: Raphael Troncy Vassilis_Tzouvaras Oscar_Celma Thomas_Franz Pasquale_Popolizio Christian_Halaschek-Wiener
Agenda: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0023.html">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0023.html</a>
Got date from IRC log name: 15 Mar 2007
Guessing minutes URL: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html</a>
People with action items: chris chrisa erik jeff michael oscar raphael stamatia suzanne thierry vassilis zeljko
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