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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 18-01-2007, 17:00 UTC</h1>
<h2>18 Jan 2007</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Jan/0032.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Raphael_Troncy, Roberto_Ellero, Zeljko_Obrenovic,
Christian_Halaschek-Wiener, Michael_Hausenblas, Suzanne,
Little, Thomas, Franz, Tobias, Buerger, Zeljko, Melli,
Susanne, Boll</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Jeff_Pan, Pasquale_Popolizio, Vassilis_Tzouvaras,
Patrizia_Asirelli, Ioannis_Pratikakis, Paola_Hobson</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Raphael</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>Michael</dd>
</dl>
</div>
<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon
18-01-2007, 17:00 UTC</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">1. ADMIN</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">2. LINKS Pages</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">4. Interoperability
Deliverable#</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">4.1 Structure (Vassilis)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">4.4 Photo Use case: (Susanne
Boll)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">4.5 Tagging Use case: (George,
Thomas, Raphael)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">4.6 Algorithm representation Use
case: (Massimo, Suzanne, Patrizia, Ovidio)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item09">4.7 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use
case: (Ioannis)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item10">5. MPEG-7 Deliverable</a></li>
<li><a href="#item11">6. AOB</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="item01">Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 18-01-2007,
17:00 UTC</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Scribe: Michael</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Scribenick:
mhausenblas</p>
<h3 id="item02">1. ADMIN</h3>
<p class='phone'>Roll call</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Propose to accept the
minutes of F2F Athens</p>
<p class='phone'>no objections</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chalaschek</cite>&gt; none here</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Propose to accept the
minutes of last telecon</p>
<p class='phone'>no objections</p>
<p class='phone'>+present Erik</p>
<h3 id="item03">2. LINKS Pages</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Vocabularies page:
no major update since the F2F meeting</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ... We have to
agree on a date for a frozen version</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Erik ... propose to
add contributions</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to update the vocabularies page
by the next telecon [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'>Introduction of Zeljko</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Zeljko:</cite> Will go over the tools
page and add stuff</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; The idea is to have
a frozen version of the Vocabularies page in a XG report, date,
beginning of April</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Tools page: use the
DOAP and the RDF to automatically generate page</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ... eat our own dog
food !</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael addresses the comments on
"Image Annotation on the Semantic Web document" by next telecon
change the css style (XG report) change the syntax of the
examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz) [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Will make proposal for
voting<br />
... by next telecon for publication</p>
<h3 id="item04">4. Interoperability Deliverable#</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; michael: script
from Sandro to generate a TR from a wiki page</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ... the formatting
generates a WD</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to make testing how to
transfer the wiki page into an XG report template [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item05">4.1 Structure (Vassilis)</h3><a name="action04"
id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis and Jeff to start the Common
Framework [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p><a name="action05" id=
"action05"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis update the structure of the
deliverable and fill it in a XG report template, HTML document
in our W3C space [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p><a name="action06" id=
"action06"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis responsible that each author
of each use case to fill the summary of their interoperability
problems [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<p class='phone'>4.2 Music Use case: (Oscar)</p><a name=
"action07" id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Paola to provide a possible B2B
scenario [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p><a name="action08" id=
"action08"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar and Jacco to provide a first
implementation of the use case [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<p class='phone'>4.3 News Use case: (Thierry, Chris,
Raphael)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Fix copright
issues</p><a name="action09" id="action09"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael, Therry, and Chris to sync UC
Wiki description with their new focus (financial domain)
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item06">4.4 Photo Use case: (Susanne Boll)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Susanne:</cite> Get feedback from
industry partner within next 4 weeks</p><a name="action10" id=
"action10"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Susanne to look again in the various
systems and standards and identify 3-4 standards that together
could be the solution [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Please provide sketch of
solution</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Susanne:</cite> Will add some more
entries into vocabulary page<br />
... discussion with partners is promising</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> Want to contribute as
well</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Erik might want to start
a discussion on the public list</p><a name="action11" id=
"action11"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to start a discussion on Photo UC
on public list [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item07">4.5 Tagging Use case: (George, Thomas,
Raphael)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Status of Georg's
assignment is unclear</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thomas:</cite> Enhancing prototype that
was demoed in F2F/Athens</p><a name="action12" id=
"action12"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Thomas to report analysis of tagging
platform in Wiki [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item08">4.6 Algorithm representation Use case:
(Massimo, Suzanne, Patrizia, Ovidio)</h3>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ... and the
requirements for reusing a personomy cross-platform</p><a name=
"action13" id="action13"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Suzanne, Massimo to further exemplify
and sketch the solution: what will be needed to model in the
ontology, and how it would be used [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p><a name="action14" id=
"action14"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Sophia to find and send a
documentation about an application toolbox where the user can
select some algorithm to do feature extraction on music
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]
<strong>[CONTINUES]</strong></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> What is your plan with
this UC?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Suzanne:</cite> Will add some more bits
in the next three days<br />
... a call for feedback will be sent via mail</p>
<h3 id="item09">4.7 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use case:
(Ioannis)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> postponed to next
telecon<br />
... discuss if merged with 4.6<br />
... Regarding Bio-medical Image Use Case status</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Melli:</cite> Will take close look at
UC</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Are you interessted in
other UC?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Melli:</cite> Yes - will let you
know</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Photo UC might be a good
choice</p>
<h3 id="item10">5. MPEG-7 Deliverable</h3><a name="action15"
id="action15"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis, Raphael, Oscar, Michael,
Stamatia to set up a new Deliverable [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]
<strong>[DONE]</strong></p><a name="action16" id=
"action16"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael Stamatia to start work on
MPEG-7 deliverable [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action16</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item11">6. AOB</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Submitted proposal for
panel to WWW 07<br />
... <a href=
"http://www2007.org/cfp-Panels.php">http://www2007.org/cfp-Panels.php</a><br />
... CfP <a href=
"http://homepages.cwi.nl/~media/projects/canonical/cfp/index.html">
http://homepages.cwi.nl/~media/projects/canonical/cfp/index.html</a><br />
... .Announcement: CFP Special Issue of Multimedia Systems
Journal on Canonical Processes of Media Production</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Zeljko:</cite> Will post it onto
MMSEM-XG list</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> As reported, Jeff will
present our work right after next telecon<br />
... this means we all have to work - HARD</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chalaschek</cite>&gt; thanks!</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> next telecon in 2
weeks</p>
<p class='phone'>yep.</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>isti</cite>&gt; bye all suzanne and
massimo</p>
</div>
<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to start a
discussion on Photo UC on public list [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to update
the vocabularies page by the next telecon [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael Stamatia
to start work on MPEG-7 deliverable [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action16</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Thomas to report
analysis of tagging platform in Wiki [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/18-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to
make testing how to transfer the wiki page into an XG report
template [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar and
Jacco to provide a first implementation of the use case [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Paola to
provide a possible B2B scenario [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael
addresses the comments on "Image Annotation on the Semantic Web
document" by next telecon change the css style (XG report) change
the syntax of the examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz) [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael,
Therry, and Chris to sync UC Wiki description with their new
focus (financial domain) [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Sophia to
find and send a documentation about an application toolbox where
the user can select some algorithm to do feature extraction on
music [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Susanne to
look again in the various systems and standards and identify 3-4
standards that together could be the solution [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Suzanne,
Massimo to further exemplify and sketch the solution: what will
be needed to model in the ontology, and how it would be used
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis and
Jeff to start the Common Framework [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis
responsible that each author of each use case to fill the summary
of their interoperability problems [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis
update the structure of the deliverable and fill it in a XG
report template, HTML document in our W3C space [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/09-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis,
Raphael, Oscar, Michael, Stamatia to set up a new Deliverable
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/08-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
&nbsp;<br />
[End of minutes]<br />
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Present: Raphael_Troncy Roberto_Ellero Zeljko_Obrenovic Christian_Halaschek-Wiener Michael_Hausenblas Suzanne Little Thomas Franz Tobias Buerger Zeljko Melli Susanne Boll
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