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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
<h2>24 Jun 2009</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Jun/0019.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Yves, Silvia, Michael, Erik, Raphael, Conrad, Guillaume,
Davy</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Jack, Thierry</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Erik, Raphael</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>raphael</dd>
</dl>
</div>
<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">1. Admin</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">2. UC &amp; REQUIREMENTS</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">3. SPECIFICATION</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">4. TEST CASES</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">5. ISSUES</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">6. AOB</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
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<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Date: 24 June
2009</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Scribe: raphael</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Scribenick:
raphael</p>
<h3 id="item01">1. Admin</h3>
<p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 10 June
2009 telecon</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='phone'>Minutes accepted</p>
<h3 id="item02">2. UC &amp; REQUIREMENTS</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> will send an email to TAG
asap</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> bring this issue to
Hypertext CG</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; If we really want
feedback, the UC &amp; REQUIREMENTS needs to go to Last
Call.</p>
<p class='phone'>HTML 5 will review the doc ... via Chris
Wilson and Sam</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-83</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-83 Check
whether UC &amp; REQUIREMENTS going to be a W3C WG Note or will
it go to Last Call ? closed</p>
<p class='phone'>The doc will be split into 2 documents: one
will be WG Note, the other will go for Last Call since it will
be part of the spec</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> I will email the group
when the others actions are done ... later after the
telecon</p>
<h3 id="item03">3. SPECIFICATION</h3>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-67</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-67 Sync
with Jean Pierre to get the edit units spec reference
closed</p>
<p class='phone'>I got the info from Jean Pierre</p><a name=
"action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to summarize the info from Jean
Pierre, and mail it to the group [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-84
- Summarize the info from Jean Pierre, and mail it to the group
[on Erik Mannens - due 2009-07-01].</p>
<p class='phone'>Re: the edit units spec</p>
<p class='phone'>ACTON-49?</p>
<p class='phone'>ACTION-49?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-49 -- Yves
Lafon to draft the HTTP-Range syntax for different units
(completing all the syntax for the two way handshake) -- due
2009-03-25 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/49">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/49</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> there is an issue in
HTTPBis with how to defined custom ranges<br />
... will be dealt within IETF in our face to face meeting, end
of July<br />
... for the general complete syntax, we have to wait<br />
... but I can write an example now</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> I will postpone the
action in the tracker</p>
<p class='phone'>UA Server HTTP Communication</p>
<p class='phone'>ACTION-63?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-63 --
Conrad Parker to update the Wiki with his more general approach
with precisely the same examples -- due 2009-04-23 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/63">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/63</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Several emails on the discussion</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> the first example might be
the most interesting one</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Conrad:</cite> I suggest to continue the
discussion on the mailing list</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution</a></p>
<p class='phone'>UA MF Resolution and Processing</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> depends on Raphael's
<strong>ACTION:</strong>-) re: to split the document</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> indeed :-)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I will draft the section
as soon as Raphael release the doc</p>
<p class='phone'>ACTION-77?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-77 -- Yves
Lafon to investigate what's happened when facing an invalid
Media Fragment URI, re step 2 of <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution</a>
-- due 2009-05-06 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/77">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/77</a></p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009May/0048.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009May/0048.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> Optimistic default behavior
of a server, it can serve the whole content, since you
specified a wrong empty<br />
... in the wild, server tends to return a 416, when the request
is out of range</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> 416 is my preferred
one</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; +1 to Michael</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; +1 to Michael</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; we are talking
about <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCasesDiscussion">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCasesDiscussion</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1 to Michael</p>
<p class='phone'>Proposed resolution: 416 for TC returning
EMPTY</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; +1 (in case you
missed it above)</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION:
consensus that 416 is the correct response when the TC returns
EMPTY</strong></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; +7</p><a name=
"action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to update resolution page, TC
pages with that resolution [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-85
- Update resolution page, TC pages with that resolution [on
Michael Hausenblas - due 2009-07-01].</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-77</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-77
Investigate what's happened when facing an invalid Media
Fragment URI, re step 2 of <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution</a>
closed</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> providing the following
clarification: "invalid URI" meant, URI returning an invalid
ranges<br />
... but valid URI</p>
<h3 id="item04">4. TEST CASES</h3>
<p class='phone'>ACTION-81?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-81 --
Michael Hausenblas to update the TC discussion page with 204
proposal and ask Yves's opinion on the list -- due 2009-05-27
-- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/81">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/81</a></p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-81</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-81 Update
the TC discussion page with 204 proposal and ask Yves's opinion
on the list closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> how should we go further
?</p>
<p class='phone'>Approval page: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Reviewing TC0007</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> if one of the segment is
empty, then the and of all segments is empty</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> this seems logical</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: TC0007
should return EMPTY (thus 416)</strong></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; i think if one is
empty it gets treated as empty; eg 't=' returns ENTIRE, not
NULL</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; so we regard it as
an intersection on the different dimensions</p>
<p class='phone'>yes silvia</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; but we did say : #t=,
returns entire on TC00001</p>
<p class='phone'>conrad, yes also</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; so the intersection
of ENTIRE and id=ID0 is id=ID0</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; not NULL</p>
<p class='phone'>except that "t=" does not exist</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; I agree - the
example needs to be changed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; intersection is no null
...</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; the example is
wrong</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; "t=" is defined in
TC0001</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; TC0007 has t=, just
like TC0001</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; then</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; #t=,&amp;id='ID0'</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; is ENTIRE intersects
ID0</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; = ID0</p>
<p class='phone'>The input of TC007 should be:
#t=0,0&amp;id='ID0'</p>
<p class='phone'>for example</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; so perhaps we need
tests for both empty intersect and invalid intersect</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; should be changed to
#t=0,0&amp;id='ID0' ?</p>
<p class='phone'>TC0007 is about empty intersect</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Conrad:</cite> I suggest to have another
test case with an invalid intersect, such as 't=', which is
invalid</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; +1, we need another
TC</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Conrad:</cite> more precisely:
"t=&amp;id='ID0'"</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> ok, I will add another
TC</p>
<p class='phone'>for which the result will be NULL</p>
<p class='phone'>?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; the "purpose" line
for TC0007 should say "invalid" not "empty"</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; or something like
that :-)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>TC0008:</cite> legacy deep link</p>
<p class='phone'>I make a quick check: <a href=
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxoh1z6s_Cw#t=20s">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxoh1z6s_Cw#t=20s</a>
jump to the 20th sec</p>
<p class='phone'>but <a href=
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxoh1z6s_Cw#t=20">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxoh1z6s_Cw#t=20</a>
doesn't</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; I know the people at
YouTube who implemented it</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; I think they might
update their syntax</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; existing
implementations and syntaxes ... should we ask them to update
their syntax ?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; i think we should
aim to not break the internet; there could be any random apps
out there with javascript parsing # fragments, and if it is not
a media fragment then a UA should fall back to the application
behaviour</p>
<p class='phone'>+1 conrad</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> I want to suggest we also
consider a syntax where the comma is optional</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; in any case an app
like youtube probably overrides the UA's native # behaviour,
ie. the page javascript might override MF</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> are we going to adopt
the google syntax? what about the other players ? not the right
way to follow</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> well, there is a good
rationale for the comma, the question is not to take the
youtube syntax</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> and we do not have the
formal syntax that YouTube accepts</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> i'm rather on the
usability front, I want to make our scheme simple enough to
use<br />
... the comma might unnecessarily complexify the thing</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; +1 Silvia</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; +1</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p><a name=
"action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael to bring the 'comma optional'
discussion during next week telecon, in order to measure the
price when releasing the syntax [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't
find user - Raphael</p>
<p class='phone'>trackbot, status</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; I suggest Yves write
down the ABNF syntax for optional comma</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; so we can make sure
it's not ambiguous</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphaël to bring the 'comma optional'
discussion during next week telecon, in order to measure the
price when releasing the syntax [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-86
- to bring the 'comma optional' discussion during next week
telecon, in order to measure the price when releasing the
syntax [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2009-07-01].</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; Silvia: just change
ABNF from start,[end] to start[,end]</p>
<p class='phone'>TC0008 needs a bit more thinking</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; propose to put
it <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/03/test-description#onhold">http://www.w3.org/2006/03/test-description#onhold</a></p><a name="action05"
id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to add the HTTP status code
for all TC [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-87
- Add the HTTP status code for all TC [on Michael Hausenblas -
due 2009-07-01].</p>
<h3 id="item05">5. ISSUES</h3>
<p class='phone'>ACTION-76?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-76 -- Erik
Mannens to contact the editors of MPEG-21 Part 17 regarding the
registry of their scheme -- due 2009-05-06 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/76">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/76</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> I will send them a
reminder</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/4">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/4</a></p>
<p class='phone'>ACTION-73?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-73 --
Conrad Parker to change the phrasing of the issue 4 (just
audio/video)? -- due 2009-04-24 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/73">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/73</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Conrad, can you remember the context ?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; i put a note at the
bottom of the issue</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> I remember it came from
the last f2f meeting in Barcelona</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> I got some feedback from
the OpenVideo conf</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; so one issue is
whether to allow anything other than "audio" and "video", then
another issue is what to do if there are multiple audio or
video tracks</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; wait for feedback on
content negotiation from other WGs</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>conrad</cite>&gt; (can we close 73?
the issue seems more complex than action 73 :-)</p>
<p class='phone'>yes</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-73</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-73 Change
the phrasing of the issue 4 (just audio/video)? closed</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; Silvia: Please let us
know</p>
<p class='phone'>ACTIOn-62?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-62 -- Yves
Lafon to ask the TAG whether transcoding should be forbidden or
not when we send a fragment of a resource -- due 2009-04-23 --
OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/62">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/62</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Yves ?</p>
<p class='phone'>-- continue</p>
<p class='phone'>ACTION-82?</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-82 --
Michael Hausenblas to flesh out TC vocabulary re ISSUE-9 -- due
2009-05-27 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/82">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/82</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I haven't started
yet</p>
<h3 id="item06">6. AOB</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I send regrets in
advance for the next 2 weeks</p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Silvia</cite>&gt; <a href=
"http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/MultimediaAccessibilty">http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/MultimediaAccessibilty</a></p>
<p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Gui</cite>&gt; Silvia: Great!
Thanks</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to summarize
the info from Jean Pierre, and mail it to the group [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to add
the HTTP status code for all TC [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to update
resolution page, TC pages with that resolution [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael to bring
the 'comma optional' discussion during next week telecon, in
order to measure the price when releasing the syntax [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphaël to bring
the 'comma optional' discussion during next week telecon, in
order to measure the price when releasing the syntax [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
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Present: Yves Silvia Michael Erik Raphael Conrad Guillaume Davy
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