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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
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<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
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<h2>20 Jan 2010</h2>
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<p>See also: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/01/20-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
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<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<div class="intro">
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<dt>Present</dt>
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<dd>+49.300.aaaa, Thierry, +0329331aabb, Yves, jackjansen,
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+0329331aacc, Davy, +3539149aadd, mhausenblas,
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+329331aaee</dd>
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<dt>Regrets</dt>
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<dd>Erik, Silvia, Conrad</dd>
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<dt>Chair</dt>
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<dd>Raphael</dd>
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<dt>Scribe</dt>
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<dd>Yves</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
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<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
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<li><a href="#item01">Administrativia</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item02">next f2f</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item03">Spec</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> regrets from Erik, he
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is ill</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: Yves</p>
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<h3 id="item01">Administrativia</h3>
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<p class='phone'>minutes of last Jan 13th..</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> +1 for accepting
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the minutes</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACCEPTED</p>
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<p class='phone'>Charter extension:</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> heading toward one year</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> it will be discussed
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next tuesday. Main issue is the status of MF 2.0 (that was in
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the charter)</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> charter has wording
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about changing the charter for future work.</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> current goal is to
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progress MF 1.0 to REC</p>
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<h3 id="item02">next f2f</h3>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> waiting for answers from
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Conrad & Silvia</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Jack:</cite> they replied</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Michael, can you
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dial in now ?</p>
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<p class='phone'>more noodling needed...</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> we need your answer
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regarding date and location for next F2F</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> there are actions
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related to protocol, so we need to close those during the f2f
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(Conrad should attend for that)</p>
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<p class='phone'>Conrad didn't give a full 'ok' for Seoul</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> aadd is me</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> heading toward AMS for
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the next f2f</p>
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<p class='phone'>we need to be sure that Conrad can make it
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virtually</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> But for
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coffeeshops Amsterdam is better</p>
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<h3 id="item03">Spec</h3>
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<p class='phone'>We have discussions about processing
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requirements, as well as actions on syntax and tests</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ACTION-126?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-126 -- Yves
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Lafon to follow up on error in ABFN for npt -- due 2009-12-23
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-- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/126">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/126</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> there are discussion on
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duration/syntax in header as well, so we might nail both this
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ntp issue and header syntax in one pass</p>
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<p class='phone'>(related to timecodes and non-zero starting
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point)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ACTION-123?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-123 -- Yves
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Lafon to come up with ABNF for header syntax -- due 2009-12-09
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-- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/123">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/123</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Yves: we should
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finish that during the F2F meeting</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ... We need to
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discuss that with Conrad who has added recently some stuff</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Jack: how much work
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is needed for a strawman syntax ?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Yves: I think I
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have done that</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> tought I already sent it a
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while ago</p>
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<p class='phone'>Yves to investigate on this</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> we need it to pinpoint
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issues</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ACTION-125?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-125 --
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Michael Hausenblas to revisit his ednote in section 5 -- due
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2009-12-09 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/125">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/125</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing">
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http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> We are looking at
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors">
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http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>it's in fact Jack's ednote (the second
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one)</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> implementation shouldn't
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make a guess when dealing with broken stuff<br />
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... we must discuss duing the f2f</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Discussion about
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whether an over-specified dimension should be an error or not
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in the group</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> if there is an error it
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might be because it's a bug or it's an extension, or maybe it's
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just something else than a mediafrag</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> close
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ACTION-125</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-125 Revisit
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his ednote in section 5 closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>so be conservative and do not process
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errors</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> make sure that such
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discussion happen also around the test cases</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ie:</cite> move/copy the ednote on top
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of the wiki page</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> mhausenb to move the editorial note
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors">
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http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors</a>
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to the TC (wiki) [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/01/20-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/20-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-129
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- Move the editorial note <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors">
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http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors</a>
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to the TC (wiki) [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-01-27].</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ACTION-108?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-108 --
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Michael Hausenblas to add the missing test cases in corrib --
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due 2009-11-16 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/108">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/108</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ACTION-115?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-115 --
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Michael Hausenblas to come up with categorization of test cases
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wrt empty, undefined, etc -- due 2009-09-30 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/115">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/115</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ACTION-119?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-119 -- Yves
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Lafon to request admins to set up a cvs notifications mailing
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list and notifications -- due 2009-10-14 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> so ETA for Michael's
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issues is next week.</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ACTION-119?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-119 -- Yves
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Lafon to request admins to set up a cvs notifications mailing
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list and notifications -- due 2009-10-14 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>need to check the status</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> regrets for next week</p>
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<p class='phone'>Yves will be at a f2f next week</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> mhausenb to move
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the editorial note <a href=
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http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-media-frags-20091217/#processing-overview-errors</a>
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to the TC (wiki) [recorded in <a href=
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Present: +49.300.aaaa Thierry +0329331aabb Yves jackjansen +0329331aacc Davy +3539149aadd mhausenblas +329331aaee
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