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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
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<h1>SV_MEETING_TITLE</h1>
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<h2>17 Apr 2009</h2>
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<p>See also: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>
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<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dt>Regrets</dt>
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<dd>SV_MEETING_CHAIR</dd>
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<dt>Scribe</dt>
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<dd>daniel</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
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<ul>
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<li><a href="#agenda">Topics</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> so, questions about
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the mapping: we need to identify for which of these properties
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would a query expect to return one result, and for which we
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could get multiple results</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> we also need to
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work out whether the API is supposed to deliver what is in the
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file, verbatim, or whether it is supposed to try to manipulate
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the data into some kind of canonical form?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> for example, dates
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into ISO or RFC 3339 date format?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> identifiers into
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URNs, that identify the scheme and the identifier in that
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scheme?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> keywords from a
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defined set or open?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> we're also trying
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to define which elements are technical properties (e.g. frame
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size) and which are annotations</p>
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<p class='phone'>In Wikipedia: Media Object is a portion of one
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or two elements that may contain video and/or audio. Media
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objects with audio are normally synchronized with the video
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when used at the same time.</p>
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<p class='phone'>annotation naming: ma:title (dc:title),
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ma:creator(dc:creator), ma:rights(dc:rights),
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ma:contributor(dc:contributor), ma:description(dc:description),
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ma:keyword (dc:subject)</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> identifier (A URI identifies
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an entity which can be either a Resource (abstract concept) or
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a Prpresentation (instance/file). Refer to 4.4</p>
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<p class='phone'>refer to 4.4 Annotating Media Fragments
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/#uc4">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/#uc4</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Type:</cite> either MIME type or file
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format ?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> type (genre of the entity)
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and genre is removed</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>createdate:</cite> create the film (1800
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war) in 1999 => create date is 1800 or 1999 ?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> createdate can be createdate,
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releasedate, etc...</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>dc:</cite> type is The nature or genre
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of the resource, but genre is well used and understood in
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contents today...which might be better word ? *Type* or *Genre*
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?</p>
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<p class='phone'>copyright is an identification holder, and
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what rights means ?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>dc:</cite> rights => Information
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about rights held in and over the resource</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> suggest we select
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'copyright' and identify it as possibly matching dc:rights, and
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not have a separate 'rights</p>
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<p class='phone'>DRM and Right Managements are not in-scope of
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MAWG...keeping *Copyright* and removing *Rights* from the
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properties</p>
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<p class='phone'>W3C does not have its own DRM and just trying
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to reuse them</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> language (used in resource
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such as english, franch, spanish, korean, etc...) reference:
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<a href=
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"http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt">http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>*</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>dc:</cite> relation, what relation and
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how to express these relationship ? such as a URI</p><a name=
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"action01" id="action01"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> daniel to ask Felix for the
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relationship in dc:relation [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
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find user - daniel</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Soohong Daniel to ask Felix for the
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relationship in dc:relation [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-103
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- Daniel to ask Felix for the relationship in dc:relation [on
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Soohong Daniel Park - due 2009-04-24].</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> compression (compression of
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type used, such as codec: H.264, etc...), reference to
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:<a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4281.txt">http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4281.txt</a><br />
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... ShotLocation (location associated with the entity. Can be
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the depicted location or shot location) reference to: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-geolocation-API-20081222/">http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-geolocation-API-20081222/</a><br />
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... targetAudience (is newly added): for example: parental
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guide (kids lock), targeting geographical, etc...)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> felix re you
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there?</p>
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<p class='phone'><a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Meeting_Agenda_(In_Progress)">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Meeting_Agenda_(In_Progress)</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>vrodrgue</cite>> Hi Felix, we are
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dialed-in...</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> hi vrodruge, I will
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dial in later, see above</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>veroniquemalaise</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Top_Supported_Tags">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Top_Supported_Tags</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Format_mapping_review">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Format_mapping_review</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>make minutes</p><a name="action03" id=
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"action03"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Felix to provide information about
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language identification, in addition to RFC 4646 [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-104
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- Provide information about language identification, in
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addition to RFC 4646 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2009-04-24].</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> sorry for giving
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myself an action ...</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Soohong Daniel to ask members for the
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definition of contributor types [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-105
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- Daniel to ask members for the definition of contributor types
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[on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2009-04-24].</p>
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<p class='phone'>zamik, who is here</p><a name="action05" id=
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"action05"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Wonsuk (and editing team) to come up
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with the initial Ontology document by April 28 [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-106
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- (and editing team) to come up with the initial Ontology
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document by April 28 [on WonSuk Lee - due 2009-04-24].</p>
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<p class='phone'>who is here?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> An identifier can
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adress either a "Resource" (abstract concept) or a
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"Representation" (instance/file).</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> It can be a singel
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object or composed of fragments</p>
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<p class='phone'>a new selected mappilg table: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Top_Supported_Tags">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Top_Supported_Tags</a></p><a name="action06"
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id="action06"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to update the all excel format
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files according to the new initial MAWG attributes [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-107
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- Update the all excel format files according to the new
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initial MAWG attributes [on Joakim Söderberg - due
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2009-04-24].</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>veroniquemalaise</cite>> <a href=
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"http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html">
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http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>3 major parts: introduction, definition and
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mapping table.</p>
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<p class='phone'>Raphael, we are now trying to shut down the
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meeting by 5 PM wihtout break</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>vrodrgue</cite>> .</p><a name=
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"action07" id="action07"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to make a *call for comments*
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to the mailing list in terms of mapping table [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-108
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- Make a *call for comments* to the mailing list in terms of
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mapping table [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-04-24].</p>
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<p class='phone'>Attribution and description might be
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elaborated. Each Attribute has a clear meaning and
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explanation.</p><a name="action08" id="action08"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Dave to elaborate on the description
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and the meaning of each attribute by April 28 [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
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find user - Dave</p>
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<p class='phone'>who is here?</p><a name="action09" id=
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"action09"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> dsinger to elaborate on the
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description and the meaning of each attribute by April 28
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
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find user - dsinger</p><a name="action10" id="action10"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> David to elaborate on the description
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and the meaning of each attribute by April 28 [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-109
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- Elaborate on the description and the meaning of each
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attribute by April 28 [on David Singer - due
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2009-04-24].</p><a name="action11" id="action11"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to double check the next F2F
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meeting date for other complicated things [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-110
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- Double check the next F2F meeting date for other complicated
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things [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-04-24].</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> done</p>
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</div>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> daniel to ask
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Felix for the relationship in dc:relation [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Dave to elaborate
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on the description and the meaning of each attribute by April 28
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> David to
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elaborate on the description and the meaning of each attribute by
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April 28 [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> dsinger to
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elaborate on the description and the meaning of each attribute by
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April 28 [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Felix to provide
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information about language identification, in addition to RFC
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4646 [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to double
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check the next F2F meeting date for other complicated things
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to make a
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*call for comments* to the mailing list in terms of mapping table
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to update
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the all excel format files according to the new initial MAWG
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attributes [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Soohong Daniel to
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ask Felix for the relationship in dc:relation [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Soohong Daniel to
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ask members for the definition of contributor types [recorded in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Wonsuk (and
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editing team) to come up with the initial Ontology document by
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April 28 [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
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<address>
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Minutes formatted by David Booth's <a href=
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"http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm">
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scribe.perl</a> version 1.135 (<a href=
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"http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/">CVS log</a>)<br />
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$Date: 2009/04/17 15:05:46 $
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</address>
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<h2>Scribe.perl diagnostic output</h2>[Delete this section
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before finalizing the minutes.]<br />
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<pre>
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This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.135 of Date: 2009/03/02 03:52:20
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Check for newer version at <a href=
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"http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/">http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/</a>
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Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00)
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No ScribeNick specified. Guessing ScribeNick: daniel
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Inferring Scribes: daniel
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WARNING: No "Topic:" lines found.
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WARNING: No "Present: ... " found!
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Possibly Present: JPE P0 P1 Type createdate daniel dc dsinger florian fsasaki guillaume joakim joined left ma mediaann raphael shepazu silvia trackbot veroniquemalaise victorrodriguez vrodrgue wbailer wonsuk
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You can indicate people for the Present list like this:
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<dbooth> Present: dbooth jonathan mary
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<dbooth> Present+ amy
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WARNING: No meeting title found!
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You should specify the meeting title like this:
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<dbooth> Meeting: Weekly Baking Club Meeting
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WARNING: No meeting chair found!
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You should specify the meeting chair like this:
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<dbooth> Chair: dbooth
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Got date from IRC log name: 17 Apr 2009
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Guessing minutes URL: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html</a>
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People with action items: daniel dave david dsinger editing felix joakim soohong team wonsuk
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WARNING: Input appears to use implicit continuation lines.
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You may need the "-implicitContinuations" option.
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WARNING: No "Topic: ..." lines found!
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Resulting HTML may have an empty (invalid) <ol>...</ol>.
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Explanation: "Topic: ..." lines are used to indicate the start of
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new discussion topics or agenda items, such as:
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<dbooth> Topic: Review of Amy's report
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</pre>[End of <a href=
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"http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm">
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scribe.perl</a> diagnostic output]
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