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<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
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<h2>01 Dec 2010</h2>
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<p><a href=
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'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Nov/0045.html'>
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Agenda</a></p>
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<p>See also: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
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<dt>Present</dt>
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<dd>erik, raphael, foolip, tomayac, silvia, Yves</dd>
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<dt>Regrets</dt>
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<dd>Davy</dd>
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<dd>Raphael, Erik</dd>
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<dt>Scribe</dt>
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<dd>raphael</dd>
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<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
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<li><a href="#item01">1. ADMIN</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item02">2. MEDIA FRAGMENT
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SPECIFICATION:</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item03">HTML5 Bugg</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item04">4. Test Cases</a></li>
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<li><a href="#item05">5. AOB</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'></p>
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<p class='phone'></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 01 December
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2010</p>
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<h3 id="item01">1. ADMIN</h3>
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<p class='phone'>Goal today is mainly to approve some text
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changes, /cc silvia foolip</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: raphael</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribenick:
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raphael</p>
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<p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last
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week telecon:</p>
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<p class='phone'><a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/11/24-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/24-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'>+1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'>minutes are approved</p>
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<p class='phone'>Call for HTML5 + WHATWG to comment on the
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spec</p>
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<p class='phone'><a href=
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"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Nov/thread.html">
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Nov/thread.html</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><a href=
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"http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-November/thread.html">
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http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-November/thread.html</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>no discussion</p>
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<p class='phone'>No comments either from indivudals
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requested</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> should this block to us
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to go to CR?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> no for CR stage, only at
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PR</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> also no comment is
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assent ;)</p>
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<h3 id="item02">2. MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION:</h3>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-192?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-192 -- Davy
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Van Deursen to update the specification to state what the
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processing should do when media fragments request (time
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dimension) does not match exactly how the media item has been
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encoded -- due 2010-11-08 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/192">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/192</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-192</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-192 Update
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the specification to state what the processing should do when
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media fragments request (time dimension) does not match exactly
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how the media item has been encoded closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>"When there is a mismatch between the SMPTE
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time code used by the UA and the encoding settings of the
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requested media resource (e.g., use of smpte-25 time code when
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the media resource is encoded at 30fps), the server MUST ignore
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the RANGE header and returns the whole resource (i.e., a 200).
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"</p>
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<p class='phone'>in section 6.2.5</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> no objection for this
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change?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> good</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> none</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-193?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-193 -- Erik
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Mannens to make a schema for the server redirect recipe -- due
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2010-11-08 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/193">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/193</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-193</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-193 Make a
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schema for the server redirect recipe closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>See the figure in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#server-triggered-redirect">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#server-triggered-redirect</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>foolip</cite>> ACTION-192 should
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also say what clients should do for #t=smpt:...</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> there is a request with
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a fragment URI and a 30x response with another fragment in the
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header, which is the situation described in the latest TAG
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resolution, see <a href=
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"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Nov/0107.html">
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Nov/0107.html</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> Note that if there is
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a redirect to a fragment, we should explain the precedence
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rules for the UA (once the content after the redirect is
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fetched, to have the right CT)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> (actually in 5.2.1
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Location have no hash, so no issue there)</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> actually, the location has
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no has, only the link, so it is ok</p>
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<p class='phone'>foolip, this is fully specified in the recipe,
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what do you think is missing?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> is mapping between smpte
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and bytes can be done on UA side, then recipe 5.1.1, otherwise,
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recipe 5.1.2</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-194?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-194 --
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Raphaël Troncy to add an intro paragraph in the section 5 to
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explain which recipes is useful for which dimension -- due
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2010-11-08 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/194">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/194</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-194</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-194 Add an
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intro paragraph in the section 5 to explain which recipes is
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useful for which dimension closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>Read the first paragraph at <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#media-fragment-processing">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#media-fragment-processing</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>silvia, foolip, could you read this paragraph
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and states if you have objections</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> good, but we should add
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that this always happen in a particular context<br />
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... i.e., within a media element for example</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> hmm, is some of this
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not rather appropriate for the "implementation" section?</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> so we hint that this is a
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media resource</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> all "recipes" may be
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applied only if the contex hints that it should be a video</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> (or media resource in
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general)</p>
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<p class='phone'>Silvia, I had an action to clarify which
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recipe is made for what ... and I use MAY as it is the most
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sensible option</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> what if it is just
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the browser url bar?</p>
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<p class='phone'>Silvia, then we go to 7.1 and your
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paragraph</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> regular download,
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however an UA might interrupt and use a recipe</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> Yves, so in the url
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bar, the browser would start downloading the resource without
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the fragment, then realize it is a media resource, then do byte
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ranges?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> might</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> makes sense</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-197?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-197 --
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Raphaël Troncy to also add in the intro of Section 5 a
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paragraph explaining the optimistic processing of fragments
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(using ranges in seconds) -- due 2010-11-09 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/197">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/197</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-197</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-197 Also
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add in the intro of Section 5 a paragraph explaining the
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optimistic processing of fragments (using ranges in seconds)
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closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>Read the second paragraph at <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#media-fragment-processing">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#media-fragment-processing</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> 1st paragraph should state
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that the MIME TYPE of the resource is known to be media</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> 2n paragraph is when
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don't know yet, thus the optimization</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> exceptthe first
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5.1.2 reference should be a 5.1.1 reference</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> change the "it is
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recommended" by a MAY</p>
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<p class='phone'>No silvia, we don't have any information about
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the resource ... no MIME type, no header</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> impossible to do
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5.1.1</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>foolip</cite>> My only issue is
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that OGG is spelled Ogg.</p>
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<p class='phone'>thanks foolip</p>
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<p class='phone'>so I will do these changes</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> as soon as the media
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element is set up, it is clear</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-198?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-198 --
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Raphaël Troncy to edit section 7.1 for taking into account the
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cropping resolution -- due 2010-11-09 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/198">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/198</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-198</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-198 Edit
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section 7.1 for taking into account the cropping resolution
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closed</p>
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<p class='phone'>Section 7.1: "For spatial URI fragments, the
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next section describes two distinct use cases, highlighting and
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cropping. HTML rendering clients are expected to implement
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cropping as the default rendering mechanism. "</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> bummer, but makes
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sense from a "fragment" point of view</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-199?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-199 --
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Raphaël Troncy to add a clarification text regarding the
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purpose of the grammar -- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/199">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/199</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-200?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-200 --
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Raphaël Troncy to send a proposal to close ISSUE-19 that
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consists in: clarification text + normative parsing algorithm
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-- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/200">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/200</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> would be happy to
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remove any reference to "highlighting"</p>
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<p class='phone'>both pending for now, will be done after the
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telecon</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-201?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-201 --
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Silvia Pfeiffer to write a paragraph, note to developers, that
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they can easily implement a javascript to forward the hash on
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the URI to the video element -- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/201">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/201</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-201</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-201 Write a
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paragraph, note to developers, that they can easily implement a
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javascript to forward the hash on the URI to the video element
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closed</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> New section in
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<a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#media-fragment-webapps">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#media-fragment-webapps</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>Could you read what Silvia has written?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> seems to be an example
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of what can be done, it should be marked as such (as it could
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be seen as being normative)</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> it is written under
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the condition that HTML5 media elements will support media
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fragment, btw</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> the entire section is
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informative</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> do we have a
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solution for setting 2 videos on a page to say the first 20secs
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in, and the second 30secs in?</p>
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<p class='phone'>No tomayac</p>
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<p class='phone'>should we?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> maybe</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> tomayac, I had an
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example for it, but I don't think it's necessary</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> if you have more
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than one video on a page, it's likely to be a gallery-type use
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case and fragments don't make much sense</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> it is not linked to
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media fragment, but how to send compound state to a js
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application that will put the mediafrag on the src elements</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> there is no direct
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relationship between a fragment on an html page and fragments
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on video elements within that page</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> agreed. use case
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might be to set the thumbs (stills) appropriately</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> tomayac, that would
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require a temporal media fragment of no duration</p>
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<p class='phone'>silvia, text is agreed, thanks!</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-202?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-202 --
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Silvia Pfeiffer to draft the paragraph that the group will
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propose to HTML5 regarding how the control of media fragment
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URI should be done -- due 2010-12-01 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/202">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/202</a></p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> yepp, basically was
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just wondering</p>
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<h3 id="item03">HTML5 Bugg</h3>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> let me call in for
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this one - it needs a discussion</p>
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<p class='phone'>silvia, did you this one?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> <a href=
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"https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/Video_Media_Fragments">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/Video_Media_Fragments</a></p><a name="action01"
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id="action01"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> tomayac to build a media fragment URI
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parser in javascript [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
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find user - tomayac</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> Thomas to build a media fragment URI
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parser in javascript [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-203
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- Build a media fragment URI parser in javascript [on Thomas
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Steiner - due 2010-12-08].</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> please read above
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link for action 202</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> I like it</p>
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<p class='phone'>foolip, could you read <a href=
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"https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/Video_Media_Fragments">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/Video_Media_Fragments</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> foolip, we want to use
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this to reopen HTML5 bug closed by Ian</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> at least to restart
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the discussion</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-202?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-202 --
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Silvia Pfeiffer to draft the paragraph that the group will
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propose to HTML5 regarding how the control of media fragment
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URI should be done -- due 2010-12-01 -- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/202">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/202</a></p>
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<p class='phone'>HTML5 bug is at: <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723">http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> I will complete this text
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and mail the list before re-opening the bug<br />
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... action is still pending</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I want us to discuss
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- have we considered everything? is something missing?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> sounds ok after 2nd
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read</p>
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<p class='phone'>ACTION-173?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-173 -- Yves
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Lafon to produce the code that will check the grammar of both
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the URI syntax and the Headers syntax -- due 2010-06-22 --
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OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/173">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/173</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> the code is up to date with
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respect to the hours optional in npt format for the time
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dimension</p>
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<p class='phone'>close ACTION-173</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-173 Produce
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the code that will check the grammar of both the URI syntax and
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the Headers syntax closed</p><a name="action03" id=
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"action03"></a>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
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<strong>ACTION:</strong> yves to produce the code that will
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check the grammar of the Headers syntax [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-204
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- Produce the code that will check the grammar of the Headers
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syntax [on Yves Lafon - due 2010-12-08].</p>
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<h3 id="item04">4. Test Cases</h3>
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<p class='phone'>ACTIOn-168?</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-168 -- Davy
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Van Deursen to investigate how the automatic test suite could
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also be done for evaluating the UA behavior -- due 2010-06-02
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-- OPEN</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/168">
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/168</a></p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> I suggest we have
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dedicated telecon about test cases after CR transition<br />
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... I think once the few remaining spec edit are done, we
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should transition</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> we need to close all issues
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too</p>
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<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> goal is to have all
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ISSUE close by next week<br />
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... in order to make sure issuers are happy<br />
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... and transition to CR</p>
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<h3 id="item05">5. AOB</h3>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> n/a</p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> thanks!</p>
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<p class='phone'>meeting adjourned</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Thomas to build a
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media fragment URI parser in javascript [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> tomayac to build
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a media fragment URI parser in javascript [recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> yves to produce
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the code that will check the grammar of the Headers syntax
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[recorded in <a href=
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"http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
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